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Jews outside Israel have more say than anyone. If it wasn't for America's seemingly unconditional support, Israel wouldn't be able to pursue actions like this.

Jews outside Israel have more say than anyone. If it wasn't for America's seemingly unconditional support, Israel wouldn't be able to pursue actions like this. For some insane reason, America is ostensibly willing to support Israel's crimes all the way to the brink of Armageddon. The stakes are that Lebanon and Iran join in the conflict, which has given America cause for serious concern, but Israel seems more determined than ever. The root of the problem lies, as it often does, with America.

Gibbon1 3y ago
So your down the dark road then. Going to blame a non-self selecting group of people for something. The reality is the US plays the heavy while all the other countries get to have their cake and eat it too. They can vote endlessly against Israel knowing the US will be the single no vote. Which suits them just fine. There is no brink of Armageddon because no one that is anyone cares about the Palestinians in Gaza and despite their protects they are perfectly happy with Israel exterminating Hamas. Because if you're a political leader you instinctively understand Hamas is bad news. Also you're ignoring that while unlike you, Jews in the US don't support genocide against Jews in Israel. They are more critical and willing to apply pressure than say Evangelical Christians, your politicians and your business leaders. So you're mostly blaming the wrong people because it conveniently avoids pointing a finger back at you.
- livinginfear 3y ago
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  - tptacek 3y ago
    I think you probably want to dial back this "pressure from the Jewish diaspora" stuff, especially if your mental model of that diaspora is 3 right-wing American pundits. Maybe this is a comfortable place for everyone to tie this thread off. You're not going to solve the Israel/Palestine crisis on this thread.
pauldenton 3y ago
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Gibbon1 3y ago

So your down the dark road then. Going to blame a non-self selecting group of people for something. The reality is the US plays the heavy while all the other countries get to have their cake and eat it too. They can vote endlessly against Israel knowing the US will be the single no vote. Which suits them just fine. There is no brink of Armageddon because no one that is anyone cares about the Palestinians in Gaza and despite their protects they are perfectly happy with Israel exterminating Hamas. Because if you're a political leader you instinctively understand Hamas is bad news. Also you're ignoring that while unlike you, Jews in the US don't support genocide against Jews in Israel. They are more critical and willing to apply pressure than say Evangelical Christians, your politicians and your business leaders. So you're mostly blaming the wrong people because it conveniently avoids pointing a finger back at you.

livinginfear 3y ago
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- tptacek 3y ago
  I think you probably want to dial back this "pressure from the Jewish diaspora" stuff, especially if your mental model of that diaspora is 3 right-wing American pundits. Maybe this is a comfortable place for everyone to tie this thread off. You're not going to solve the Israel/Palestine crisis on this thread.

pauldenton 3y ago

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