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Serious question - I read that Sweden has a lot of social issues right now, but then I see this "bipartisan" reform (is this word used in non-US politics?) of a

Serious question - I read that Sweden has a lot of social issues right now, but then I see this "bipartisan" reform (is this word used in non-US politics?) of an important sector in a reasonable way. What is the Swedish political system doing right?

Moldoteck 3y ago
You should try and visit those regions with social issues and compare them with safe us regions, you'll be surprised)))
MattGaiser 3y ago
Sweden has proportional representation, so any government action has multiple parties backing it. Largest party in Sweden has only 30% of the seats (and they aren't even in the government).
- fifilura 3y ago
  I think the multipolarity may be the key. In a bipolar world there must be a rift between the two and in some unlucky circumstances the rift can only grow and never heal.
techpression 3y ago
Not much, this took decades to bear into fruition, it was only two years ago or so the biggest party was vehemently saying no to nuclear. Expensive winters and the idea of green steel and the massive and likely unrecoverable expenses it brings requires massive amounts of power that just isn’t possible with any other means. If you want the green steel you need nuclear in Sweden, we just can’t put up tens of thousands of wind power plants to cover for stability and delivery.
- actionfromafar 3y ago
  Well, I think nuclear is needed, but green steel is uniquely suited for intermittent (read: wind) power.
thedaly 3y ago
Most western democracies have more than two viable political parties.
doikor 3y ago
> "bipartisan" This means something very different in most multiparty parliamentary systems. Basically as there isn't any single party with a majority every government is at least bipartisan (usually more like 3 or 4 parties). So technically "bipartisan" but quite misleading wording/title. What actually is happening the new government changed some goals (100% green -> 100% non carbon producing) giving nuclear access to the same subsidies that wind/solar have. Most of those subsidies are in the form of loan guarantees and not really big enough so maybe more subsidies are needed if they actually want some new reactors (but not actually agreed upon yet)
actionfromafar 3y ago
On the other hand this reform is unfunded, leaving that headache to future governments.
SiempreViernes 3y ago
I think mainly you simply have a very poor understanding of the curren political situation in Sweden and simply assumed this is a real reform or that it was decided in a reasonable way.

Moldoteck 3y ago

You should try and visit those regions with social issues and compare them with safe us regions, you'll be surprised)))

MattGaiser 3y ago

Sweden has proportional representation, so any government action has multiple parties backing it. Largest party in Sweden has only 30% of the seats (and they aren't even in the government).

fifilura 3y ago
I think the multipolarity may be the key. In a bipolar world there must be a rift between the two and in some unlucky circumstances the rift can only grow and never heal.

techpression 3y ago

Not much, this took decades to bear into fruition, it was only two years ago or so the biggest party was vehemently saying no to nuclear. Expensive winters and the idea of green steel and the massive and likely unrecoverable expenses it brings requires massive amounts of power that just isn’t possible with any other means. If you want the green steel you need nuclear in Sweden, we just can’t put up tens of thousands of wind power plants to cover for stability and delivery.

actionfromafar 3y ago
Well, I think nuclear is needed, but green steel is uniquely suited for intermittent (read: wind) power.

thedaly 3y ago

Most western democracies have more than two viable political parties.

doikor 3y ago

> "bipartisan" This means something very different in most multiparty parliamentary systems. Basically as there isn't any single party with a majority every government is at least bipartisan (usually more like 3 or 4 parties). So technically "bipartisan" but quite misleading wording/title. What actually is happening the new government changed some goals (100% green -> 100% non carbon producing) giving nuclear access to the same subsidies that wind/solar have. Most of those subsidies are in the form of loan guarantees and not really big enough so maybe more subsidies are needed if they actually want some new reactors (but not actually agreed upon yet)

actionfromafar 3y ago

On the other hand this reform is unfunded, leaving that headache to future governments.

SiempreViernes 3y ago

I think mainly you simply have a very poor understanding of the curren political situation in Sweden and simply assumed this is a real reform or that it was decided in a reasonable way.