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> watching letters appear on a computer screen every 1.6 seconds and documenting when one matched a letter that had appeared three letters ago. The other 16 par

> watching letters appear on a computer screen every 1.6 seconds and documenting when one matched a letter that had appeared three letters ago. The other 16 participants were asked to perform a similar, but easier task. Both teams worked for just over six hours This is torture

solardev 3y ago
It's like guitar hero's evil twin. After six hours, I wish the study would've differentiated between "tired" and "murderously enraged"
sva_ 3y ago
Probably got a chance to win a $20 Amazon gift card in return
mholm 3y ago
This is fairly similar to an ADHD screening test I took. I was mentally exhausted after about 20 minutes of it.
- BagelGuy 3y ago
  I took a similar one, I remember "trying" really hard to prove to myself that I wasn't faking but about 30 seconds later I was looking about the room and struggling to recall if the screen changed at all. Was a nice confirmation of my issues.
deegles 3y ago
This is a working memory exercise called "n-back". For true torture try "dual n-back" where you also have to match a tone, shape or color. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-back https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-back
TonyTrapp 3y ago
Sounds like something coming straight out of The Stanley Parable.
frenchwhisker 3y ago
Reminds me of a card game I played as a kid called Egyptian Ratscrew, where one of the possible rules is to slap the deck if a "sandwich" appeared (e.g. a 3, a J, then another 3), so you always had to keep the card before the last one in your head. I remember variations such as "double sandwiches"—which made the 2-back into a 3-back—and many others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Ratscrew https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Ratscrew
- hx8 3y ago
  I use to colloquially call this game "slap deck" as a kid. The general approach taken was to add a ton of house rules, such that it was a large test of working memory to keep all rules in your head. We kept some simple rules to keep the game approachable for younger children, and older children/teens would continue to add house rules to make the game more complex. In addition, game play would be very fast, and often times patterns would be missed because no one recognized it quick enough. Some of the rules that would sometime appear that I can recall * Put 1 or 2 jokers in. Jokers are slappable * Doubles are slappable (3, 3) * Three (or four) face cards are slappable * Three (or four) cards of the same suite are slappable * Three (or four) consecutive cards are slappable (2, 3, 4, 5) or (5, 4, 3, 2) * A player without cards can 'slap in'
  - pradn 3y ago
    I’ve taught this game to 3 year olds and college students - everyone has fun with it!
- iamwpj 3y ago
  Ahh, thanks for the memories! If it weren't for my slow reflexes, I would have been much better at that game.
irrational 3y ago
How many minutes could you last before you lost focus said, "Screw it" and stopped really trying? I think I'd last maybe 5 minutes.
Almondsetat 3y ago
> This is torture I would like to ask everyone to stop for a moment and think if in their line of work they are required to perform tasks like this. Your job might be even shittier than you currently feel like it is
- derekp7 3y ago
  The difference is the reward afterward. Learning to play a complex piece on an instrument is mentally taxing, but getting it right gives you that sense of accomplishment that can't really be matched with anything else. Same with debugging a program you are writing, or solving other types of problems. Doing hours of arithmetic homework as a child didn't give me that reward signal, so for me that was torture back then.
zulln 3y ago
ChatGPT throw together that game in a few seconds if you want to play it. https://github.com/zulln/misc/tree/master/lettergame https://github.com/zulln/misc/tree/master/lettergame https://zulln.se/misc/lettergame/ https://zulln.se/misc/lettergame/

solardev 3y ago

It's like guitar hero's evil twin. After six hours, I wish the study would've differentiated between "tired" and "murderously enraged"

sva_ 3y ago

Probably got a chance to win a $20 Amazon gift card in return

mholm 3y ago

This is fairly similar to an ADHD screening test I took. I was mentally exhausted after about 20 minutes of it.

BagelGuy 3y ago
I took a similar one, I remember "trying" really hard to prove to myself that I wasn't faking but about 30 seconds later I was looking about the room and struggling to recall if the screen changed at all. Was a nice confirmation of my issues.

deegles 3y ago

This is a working memory exercise called "n-back". For true torture try "dual n-back" where you also have to match a tone, shape or color. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-back https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-back

TonyTrapp 3y ago

Sounds like something coming straight out of The Stanley Parable.

frenchwhisker 3y ago

Reminds me of a card game I played as a kid called Egyptian Ratscrew, where one of the possible rules is to slap the deck if a "sandwich" appeared (e.g. a 3, a J, then another 3), so you always had to keep the card before the last one in your head. I remember variations such as "double sandwiches"—which made the 2-back into a 3-back—and many others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Ratscrew https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Ratscrew

hx8 3y ago
I use to colloquially call this game "slap deck" as a kid. The general approach taken was to add a ton of house rules, such that it was a large test of working memory to keep all rules in your head. We kept some simple rules to keep the game approachable for younger children, and older children/teens would continue to add house rules to make the game more complex. In addition, game play would be very fast, and often times patterns would be missed because no one recognized it quick enough. Some of the rules that would sometime appear that I can recall * Put 1 or 2 jokers in. Jokers are slappable * Doubles are slappable (3, 3) * Three (or four) face cards are slappable * Three (or four) cards of the same suite are slappable * Three (or four) consecutive cards are slappable (2, 3, 4, 5) or (5, 4, 3, 2) * A player without cards can 'slap in'
- pradn 3y ago
  I’ve taught this game to 3 year olds and college students - everyone has fun with it!
iamwpj 3y ago
Ahh, thanks for the memories! If it weren't for my slow reflexes, I would have been much better at that game.

irrational 3y ago

How many minutes could you last before you lost focus said, "Screw it" and stopped really trying? I think I'd last maybe 5 minutes.

Almondsetat 3y ago

> This is torture I would like to ask everyone to stop for a moment and think if in their line of work they are required to perform tasks like this. Your job might be even shittier than you currently feel like it is

derekp7 3y ago
The difference is the reward afterward. Learning to play a complex piece on an instrument is mentally taxing, but getting it right gives you that sense of accomplishment that can't really be matched with anything else. Same with debugging a program you are writing, or solving other types of problems. Doing hours of arithmetic homework as a child didn't give me that reward signal, so for me that was torture back then.

zulln 3y ago

ChatGPT throw together that game in a few seconds if you want to play it. https://github.com/zulln/misc/tree/master/lettergame https://github.com/zulln/misc/tree/master/lettergame https://zulln.se/misc/lettergame/ https://zulln.se/misc/lettergame/