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Very much not a trope. I personally know multiple people who refuse to text green bubbles, to the point of refusing dates from people who have Android.

spike021 3y ago
That sounds like a people problem, not a tech problem.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  It sort of becomes a people problem as people use messaging to communicate and organize events and exclude you because you'll break group chats. Probably not a big issue if you already have a solid social circle of old tight friends who don't care about you breaking chats as they can also call you, but it can be huge issue when you move to a new city and trying to make new friend, as any extra friction you add to groups lessens your chances of being accepted and invited further. Yeah, people can be quite lazy and petty even about such trivial things, when they don't know you and don't have any attachment to you yet, and you breaking group chats won't improve your first impressions and chances of being accepted. Hence the ever increasing loneliness crisis we're facing. Thank fuck I live in Europe where nobody uses iMessage for group chats. Honestly fuck Apple for creating that unnecessary friction, it's not like they couldn't have accommodated blue bubbles to not break group chats but it's more profitable to emotionally extort people to buy your iJunk by making them feel outsiders.
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    > it can be huge issue when you move to a new city and trying to make new friend Meh. I'm not interested in being part of a social circle that is as petty as that.
    - ridewinter 3y ago
      There's 40 million American teenagers who are very interested in being a part of petty social circles.
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        Pretty much. Peer pressure is an insanely powerful thing when you're young and trying to fit in and Apple knows teens aren't gonna die on the "stick to an Android to stick it to them" hill.
      - JohnFen 3y ago
        I was assuming this discussion was about adults, not children. Teenagers have always found petty reasons to reject others, but they usually grow up and learn better. This seems no different, so that part doesn't concern me much. If adults are doing it, though, that's entirely different.
      - spike021 3y ago
        Is the argument you're making that the people complaining about this on HN are American teenagers? Seems like a completely different situation.... and really, again, a people problem.
- amadeuspagel 3y ago
  People rightly criticise social media companies for the behaviour their platforms encourage, and iMessage encourages this behaviour as much as twitter encourages outrage.
  - spike021 3y ago
    I still believe that's a people problem. On Twitter you can easily curate Twitter lists of people to follow without being forced to use the generated feed. I'm rarely if ever outraged or otherwise emotionally charged when I'm using it. (Maybe except when I come across reply-bots) And as I said elsewhere in the thread, I've never experienced that problem with any friend groups when it comes to iMessage.
filoleg 3y ago
And I know multiple people who refuse dates from those who have a zodiac sign that is “incompatible” with theirs. I think we can safely disregard that as a factor, despite how relatively not-that-rare it could be.
- rospaya 3y ago
  Yeah but bubbles sound like a class difference, astrology is just pseudoscience. People seldom get mocked for being a libra, but they often get prejudiced for having less money.
  - JohnFen 3y ago
    Given that there are Android phones on the market as or more expensive than iPhones, how can these people tell which Android users are poor?
    - ghodith 3y ago
      Sure, but there are no dirt cheap iPhones, unlike Android phones. There doesn't have to be 100% correlation before people start making assumptions.
  - Spooky23 3y ago
    There’s literally no difference in price. The only difference is that people more receptive to retail sales pitch buy androids as the reps get spiffs to move them.
    - ghodith 3y ago
      Only for top of the line android phones. There exists a huge lower-tier android market that iPhone doesn't compete in.
- ActorNightly 3y ago
  I mean, the argument isn't that they should accept the date (on the contrary, these signs are actually beneficial for staying the fuck away from these people), the argument, or rather statement is that this sort of "tech jewelry" is very embedded in modern society, with Apple being the frontrunner. And this has real effects. For example, Im forced to use a piece of shit Macbook at work, where literally everything else in our cloud runs on linux, because the company issues Macs as a way of attracting talent since "tech" people also want tech jewelry.
hyperbovine 3y ago
This is not even among the top five weirdest things I have heard some base a dating decision on. People are complicated.
PrimeMcFly 3y ago
> I personally know multiple people who refuse to text green bubbles, to the point of refusing dates from people who have Android. Those people don't sound like people worth knowing. Ignorant and judgy to say the least.
- wolverine876 3y ago
  Life isn't so simple. What if that person is your boss or your client, or someone you love?
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    I mean the comment I replied to mentioned refusing dates from people with green text bubbles. If it's a boss or someone I love and they want to ignore my messages that's on them. If it's a work issue possibly HR could be involved as discrimination or outright ignoring messages based on device wouldn't really fly.
    - ghodith 3y ago
      > Those people don't sound like people worth knowing. My boss could be refusing dates from people that have green bubbles, but not ignoring my messages. Same with a family member for example. Your comment says they aren't worth knowing either way.
      - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        I mean, sure if they are not ignoring your messages and you need or want to know them that's fine, but if they are still being that judgy for something so petty they seem like shitty people regardless.
  - Zak 3y ago
    Someone you love? If the affection is mutual they're not going to cut off communication with you because your phone doesn't run their favorite chat app.
JohnFen 3y ago
> to the point of refusing dates from people who have Android. The people who were refused dates dodged bullets, then.
- deleted 3y ago
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gsich 3y ago
Some mental illnesses can't be cured I guess.
bigstrat2003 3y ago
> I personally know multiple people who refuse to text green bubbles, to the point of refusing dates from people who have Android. Sounds like not dating them is dodging a real bullet if they're that shallow.

spike021 3y ago

That sounds like a people problem, not a tech problem.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
It sort of becomes a people problem as people use messaging to communicate and organize events and exclude you because you'll break group chats. Probably not a big issue if you already have a solid social circle of old tight friends who don't care about you breaking chats as they can also call you, but it can be huge issue when you move to a new city and trying to make new friend, as any extra friction you add to groups lessens your chances of being accepted and invited further. Yeah, people can be quite lazy and petty even about such trivial things, when they don't know you and don't have any attachment to you yet, and you breaking group chats won't improve your first impressions and chances of being accepted. Hence the ever increasing loneliness crisis we're facing. Thank fuck I live in Europe where nobody uses iMessage for group chats. Honestly fuck Apple for creating that unnecessary friction, it's not like they couldn't have accommodated blue bubbles to not break group chats but it's more profitable to emotionally extort people to buy your iJunk by making them feel outsiders.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  > it can be huge issue when you move to a new city and trying to make new friend Meh. I'm not interested in being part of a social circle that is as petty as that.
  - ridewinter 3y ago
    There's 40 million American teenagers who are very interested in being a part of petty social circles.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      Pretty much. Peer pressure is an insanely powerful thing when you're young and trying to fit in and Apple knows teens aren't gonna die on the "stick to an Android to stick it to them" hill.
    - JohnFen 3y ago
      I was assuming this discussion was about adults, not children. Teenagers have always found petty reasons to reject others, but they usually grow up and learn better. This seems no different, so that part doesn't concern me much. If adults are doing it, though, that's entirely different.
    - spike021 3y ago
      Is the argument you're making that the people complaining about this on HN are American teenagers? Seems like a completely different situation.... and really, again, a people problem.
amadeuspagel 3y ago
People rightly criticise social media companies for the behaviour their platforms encourage, and iMessage encourages this behaviour as much as twitter encourages outrage.
- spike021 3y ago
  I still believe that's a people problem. On Twitter you can easily curate Twitter lists of people to follow without being forced to use the generated feed. I'm rarely if ever outraged or otherwise emotionally charged when I'm using it. (Maybe except when I come across reply-bots) And as I said elsewhere in the thread, I've never experienced that problem with any friend groups when it comes to iMessage.

filoleg 3y ago

And I know multiple people who refuse dates from those who have a zodiac sign that is “incompatible” with theirs. I think we can safely disregard that as a factor, despite how relatively not-that-rare it could be.

rospaya 3y ago
Yeah but bubbles sound like a class difference, astrology is just pseudoscience. People seldom get mocked for being a libra, but they often get prejudiced for having less money.
- JohnFen 3y ago
  Given that there are Android phones on the market as or more expensive than iPhones, how can these people tell which Android users are poor?
  - ghodith 3y ago
    Sure, but there are no dirt cheap iPhones, unlike Android phones. There doesn't have to be 100% correlation before people start making assumptions.
- Spooky23 3y ago
  There’s literally no difference in price. The only difference is that people more receptive to retail sales pitch buy androids as the reps get spiffs to move them.
  - ghodith 3y ago
    Only for top of the line android phones. There exists a huge lower-tier android market that iPhone doesn't compete in.
ActorNightly 3y ago
I mean, the argument isn't that they should accept the date (on the contrary, these signs are actually beneficial for staying the fuck away from these people), the argument, or rather statement is that this sort of "tech jewelry" is very embedded in modern society, with Apple being the frontrunner. And this has real effects. For example, Im forced to use a piece of shit Macbook at work, where literally everything else in our cloud runs on linux, because the company issues Macs as a way of attracting talent since "tech" people also want tech jewelry.

hyperbovine 3y ago

This is not even among the top five weirdest things I have heard some base a dating decision on. People are complicated.

PrimeMcFly 3y ago

> I personally know multiple people who refuse to text green bubbles, to the point of refusing dates from people who have Android. Those people don't sound like people worth knowing. Ignorant and judgy to say the least.

wolverine876 3y ago
Life isn't so simple. What if that person is your boss or your client, or someone you love?
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  I mean the comment I replied to mentioned refusing dates from people with green text bubbles. If it's a boss or someone I love and they want to ignore my messages that's on them. If it's a work issue possibly HR could be involved as discrimination or outright ignoring messages based on device wouldn't really fly.
  - ghodith 3y ago
    > Those people don't sound like people worth knowing. My boss could be refusing dates from people that have green bubbles, but not ignoring my messages. Same with a family member for example. Your comment says they aren't worth knowing either way.
    - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
      I mean, sure if they are not ignoring your messages and you need or want to know them that's fine, but if they are still being that judgy for something so petty they seem like shitty people regardless.
- Zak 3y ago
  Someone you love? If the affection is mutual they're not going to cut off communication with you because your phone doesn't run their favorite chat app.

JohnFen 3y ago

> to the point of refusing dates from people who have Android. The people who were refused dates dodged bullets, then.

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gsich 3y ago

Some mental illnesses can't be cured I guess.

bigstrat2003 3y ago

> I personally know multiple people who refuse to text green bubbles, to the point of refusing dates from people who have Android. Sounds like not dating them is dodging a real bullet if they're that shallow.