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Other than Samsung, is anyone else making money on Android? HTC? Somehow the myth that HTC is losing money has become a meme, when actually HTC is doing gangbu

Other than Samsung, is anyone else making money on Android? HTC? Somehow the myth that HTC is losing money has become a meme, when actually HTC is doing gangbusters, just not as handsomely as they did before Samsung started soaking up Apple-like profits. I suspect HTC will do quite well on the backs of the One X and One S. Motorola would have long been a gravestone if not for Android. So would have SE and LG. Most reviews of the last Symbian phone saw it as a quickly evolving, credible device. Elop seemed to give up right when it was coming to fruition.

loverobots 15y ago
You are right on HTC, they still made a respectable profit last quarter ($150mm.) A couple of their earnings warnings must have started the meme, I fell for it http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57410404-94/htc-earnings-sales-felled-by-heavy-smartphone-competition/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57410404-94/htc-earnings-sa... It remains to be seen if earnings hold up though, as they are essentially just another phone make for Google. Elop could have done a few Android lines to hold the decline while working on the Symbian at the same time, I agree. But then any promotion and development would have been borne by Nokia. Granted they'd own Symbian but it's worth would have been questionable (see WebOS as one possibility.) If it doesn't work people will question the wisdom but, IMO, going with Windows was a good bet given the circumstances. I am rooting for them and for lots of Android and WebOS forks. I like Nokia, I like their products and the fact that they did a totally new design for Lumnia, when cloning is fashionable today. If you look around Youtube you will see videos of their phone surviving falls, run over by cars, submerging in water etc.
- partoa 15y ago
  If they fail with MS, which seems to be it's fate, in retrospect it would have been a bad bet. They chose the easier route, given that Windows Phone 7 wasn't ready for prime time either, and sat out of an emerging handset segment for years and for this they will pay dearly. They have to build themselves as a brand in the new smartphone market, a game that seems to be already taken. IMHO, short of a major innovation from Nokia in the near future, their smartphone business will go the way of the Blackberry; I have no idea is they will still want to keeps their low end models after the dust settles.
  - wvenable 15y ago
    Nokia quite simply didn't have the technology to compete -- Symbian isn't up to the task their Linux offerings needed to be solid about 4 years ago to be relevant now. I'm not sure they sat out, they just didn't get it to together. I think if they fail with MS, they would have failed with every other option as well. MS is the best option but it is perhaps much too late.

loverobots 15y ago

You are right on HTC, they still made a respectable profit last quarter ($150mm.) A couple of their earnings warnings must have started the meme, I fell for it http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57410404-94/htc-earnings-sales-felled-by-heavy-smartphone-competition/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57410404-94/htc-earnings-sa... It remains to be seen if earnings hold up though, as they are essentially just another phone make for Google. Elop could have done a few Android lines to hold the decline while working on the Symbian at the same time, I agree. But then any promotion and development would have been borne by Nokia. Granted they'd own Symbian but it's worth would have been questionable (see WebOS as one possibility.) If it doesn't work people will question the wisdom but, IMO, going with Windows was a good bet given the circumstances. I am rooting for them and for lots of Android and WebOS forks. I like Nokia, I like their products and the fact that they did a totally new design for Lumnia, when cloning is fashionable today. If you look around Youtube you will see videos of their phone surviving falls, run over by cars, submerging in water etc.

partoa 15y ago
If they fail with MS, which seems to be it's fate, in retrospect it would have been a bad bet. They chose the easier route, given that Windows Phone 7 wasn't ready for prime time either, and sat out of an emerging handset segment for years and for this they will pay dearly. They have to build themselves as a brand in the new smartphone market, a game that seems to be already taken. IMHO, short of a major innovation from Nokia in the near future, their smartphone business will go the way of the Blackberry; I have no idea is they will still want to keeps their low end models after the dust settles.
- wvenable 15y ago
  Nokia quite simply didn't have the technology to compete -- Symbian isn't up to the task their Linux offerings needed to be solid about 4 years ago to be relevant now. I'm not sure they sat out, they just didn't get it to together. I think if they fail with MS, they would have failed with every other option as well. MS is the best option but it is perhaps much too late.