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Fun to see this issue get talked about. Ancedote- I bought some car parts from a semi-scammer. Not a full-on scam but the guy wouldn't ship the complete order e
by 1nd1ansumm3r 3y ago
Fun to see this issue get talked about. Ancedote- I bought some car parts from a semi-scammer. Not a full-on scam but the guy wouldn't ship the complete order even though he had my money for several weeks. We had communicated on a few different platforms. Each platform offered up a little piece of his identity. Last four of this. First four of that. It was enough to piece it all together.
I gave him a call at his place of employment which happened to be in the exact same industry as the parts that were being sold. I asked him to ship the parts and casually asked if his employer was involved in the sale. He perked right up and the next day he shipped everything I had bought and a few extras.
- dotBen 3y ago[flagged]
- wizerdrobe 3y agoHe easily could have bought parts for a better price seeing as his has the hook-up through his employer. Without further detail none of us can know the results. Calling someone a thief is a bit of a move…
- cooper_ganglia 3y agoI read it multiple times and fail to understand this interpretation at all. Even in context, I don’t see even a drop of “reasonable suspicion”. Is it a possibility that the goods were stolen? I suppose, but that’s the case with literally anything you purchase online. I wouldn’t have even thought twice about it. I bought stuff, you didn’t send me stuff, so now I’m upset and want you to send me my stuff.
- romwell 3y agoWhy assume that person was stealing anything from the employer, rather than simply being a shitty reseller that only ships when they get a good discount from working in the industry. A call like that can incentivize them to buy at full price and sell at a loss when their inventory is lacking.
- jmprspret 3y agoYeah? Sounds pretty badass to me
- MR4D 3y agoThey could also have been counterfeit or substandard. Not saying you're wrong (because I think you're right), but there are other scenarios here, so from a theft perspective, the OP would be not guilty.
- 1nd1ansumm3r 3y agoExplain the knowingly part. I never suspected he did not own them or that they were stolen. Just knew that he took my money and didn't ship a complete order.
- m463 3y agosounds more like he was competing against his employer
- pengaru 3y agoIt's not like it's uncommon for folks to leverage employee discounts as arbitrage opportunities for a side hustle. Maybe it violates their terms of employment since they're competing with their employer, but it's not stolen goods.
- anigbrowl 3y agoA more reasonable interpretation is that he was attempting to steal goods or time from the customer by dragging his feet on shipping; 'sorry, item is backordered' often results in the sale being lost, and salespeople are known for sometimes making promises to close deals, without regard to whether they can actually deliver.
- 1nd1ansumm3r 3y agoI re-read this, not to fire back but to understand how you arrive at your conclusion. I think you are interpreting (or assuming maybe), from when I asked about his employer, that I suspected he stole the parts from his employer. That's not the case at all. I just needed a pressure point.
- ahoka 3y agoDidn’t you basically blackmail the guy?
- dylan604 3y agoyour point?
- ikekkdcjkfke 3y agoPressure and coercion is part and parcel of existing
- mavamaarten 3y agoPressuring to follow up on a made deal does not really count as blackmail imo.
- Lord-Jobo 3y agoFrom a legal standpoint blackmail requires the "receipt of money or valuable thing". Because the thing being received is an even exchange of goods already agreed to by both parties, and the threat on not receiving is not an illegal action in itself, it is not likely or plausibly blackmail. -not a lawyer, just work with too many of them
- sweetjuly 3y agoWhy are you replying to yourself and staging arguments? This is just...confusing.