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Hopefully I can turn it off. I do not know anyone who uses RCS who didn't end up on WhatsApp or Telegram pretty quickly afterwards.

by baz00 3y ago

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swozey 3y ago
Why would you turn it off? What if you hire a contractor for some work and they need to send you pictures/video from an Android? Or a realtor, mechanic, craigslist seller, or just someone you don't have/want a personal relationship with. You're not adding these people to WhatsApp/Telegram.. I have probably hundreds more phone contacts than people I have on whatsapp.
- baz00 3y ago
  It's just so bloody unreliable. UK here. Literally everyone is on WhatsApp. I haven't found anyone who isn't!
- NOWHERE_ 3y ago
  Funnily it’s vice versa for me. I don’t give out my phone number to random people, but instead give them my telegram handle of a throwaway account.
- mnd999 3y ago
  All the carriers in the UK use Googles service. Perhaps you don’t want to send all your messages via the worlds biggest advertising company.
  - microtonal 3y ago
    Google's service uses end to end encryption. Of course, Apple can choose not to implement it (seems that they'll only implement it if it's standardized).
    - mnd999 3y ago
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- freedomben 3y ago
  As an Android user I've asked a very similar question before to my iPhone friends, and most of them are just apathetic and don't care either way, but some of them will actually say some variation of: "if somebody is on Android, I don't want to talk to them anyway. It's a useful filter." The first time I heard that it was a little shocking, but especially with Gen Z, it's a minority but not unusual opinion.
  - swozey 3y ago
    I feel like this is something way more talked about online than actually occurs IRL. I didn't get an iPhone until the 13 (2 years ago?) and I'm still on it. Nobody stopped talking to me because I had green bubbles throughout my, I dunno, 10-15 years of Android phones. They would make fun of me for how reactions (Bob laughs at $reply) looked on my screen but just friendly jabs. I am a millennial though.
    - freedomben 3y ago
      I think the age does make a big difference. I'm about 40, and I've rarely heard this IRL among people near or older either. The people I've heard it from were mostly in their teens or early 20s. Some 30s and 40s have admitted to leaving friends or family out of group chats because they were on Android though. But that said, how do you know nobody stopped talking to you because of it? One of my friends (who is early 40s) said his family started leaving one of their family members out of the group chats because it "degraded the whole experience" and I doubt he ever told the person he was being left out, let alone why. I would imagine it's kind of like telling somebody that you aren't going to date them anymore because they're not attractive enough. Not something you want to admit, and even though it obviously happens, I've never heard of somebody actually being told this.
      - swozey 3y ago
        Maybe I've been kept out of group chats, it is annoying group chatting an imessage thread with android in it. I forget what it does but something is strange about it, but I'd definitely remember if someone I remotely cared about talking to just ghosted my SMS one day. I can't think of that ever happening. I had tons of friends in my 20s and almost none of them ever used Android. It was mostly tech people I knew that used Android. But, yeah, who knows. Probably nothing lost.
- hot_gril 3y ago
  > You're not adding these people to WhatsApp So far, yeah I have been. Android users don't seem to use RCS for anything advanced, they use WhatsApp. Anyway, iPhones already let you toggle MMS, so RCS might be togglable too.
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- turquoisevar 3y ago
  Then, they can text me over SMS/MMS like they already do. Besides, some of the examples you mention I'd rather have via email instead of text for record-keeping purposes.
- tomjen3 3y ago
  I had a mechanic send me a video about a problem with my car. He just SMSed me a link to their systems, where I could also approve the additional work after reviewing the video. It worked just fine.
- qingcharles 3y ago
  If you can't afford a data plan then it just essentially blocks all your incoming/outgoing messages when it enables itself.
  - notatoad 3y ago
    >If you can't afford a data plan or if you're like my parents, and pay for a plan with plenty of data but leave it switched off at all times just because you don't want to accidentally go over your cap.
- notatoad 3y ago
  you can still send photos over MMS. and you can also add your plumber or realtor on whatsapp. there's no reason not to. it's just a messaging app, i've got all kinds of customers and vendors on my whatsapp.
- microflash 3y ago
  The reason I'd turn off is because of spam. Everytime RCS was enabled on my phone, I was bombarded with all kinds of nauseating spam. I'd like an option to avoid this infliction.
- Shekelphile 3y ago
  > What if you hire a contractor for some work and they need to send you pictures/video from an Android? I would absolutely not want to do business with a contractor that uses an android phone. That's a serious red flag for someone doing work on a (usually very expensive) home to be using cheap tools.
  - thirdsun 3y ago
    Wow. I mean, I'd never buy an Android device myself but I find such a strong opinion very surprising.
  - inkysigma 3y ago
    Do you also exclude contractors that don't have a fully decked out Ford F-350? What if they carry a cheap $1 pen instead of a $50 pen to write some quotes for you? Also, you realize there are android phones that are plenty expensive right?

Hopefully I can turn it off. I do not know anyone who uses RCS who didn't end up on WhatsApp or Telegram pretty quickly afterwards.

by baz00 3y ago

Hopefully I can turn it off. I do not know anyone who uses RCS who didn't end up on WhatsApp or Telegram pretty quickly afterwards.

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swozey 3y ago

Why would you turn it off? What if you hire a contractor for some work and they need to send you pictures/video from an Android? Or a realtor, mechanic, craigslist seller, or just someone you don't have/want a personal relationship with. You're not adding these people to WhatsApp/Telegram.. I have probably hundreds more phone contacts than people I have on whatsapp.

baz00 3y ago
It's just so bloody unreliable. UK here. Literally everyone is on WhatsApp. I haven't found anyone who isn't!
NOWHERE_ 3y ago
Funnily it’s vice versa for me. I don’t give out my phone number to random people, but instead give them my telegram handle of a throwaway account.
mnd999 3y ago
All the carriers in the UK use Googles service. Perhaps you don’t want to send all your messages via the worlds biggest advertising company.
- microtonal 3y ago
  Google's service uses end to end encryption. Of course, Apple can choose not to implement it (seems that they'll only implement it if it's standardized).
  - mnd999 3y ago
    Metadata
freedomben 3y ago
As an Android user I've asked a very similar question before to my iPhone friends, and most of them are just apathetic and don't care either way, but some of them will actually say some variation of: "if somebody is on Android, I don't want to talk to them anyway. It's a useful filter." The first time I heard that it was a little shocking, but especially with Gen Z, it's a minority but not unusual opinion.
- swozey 3y ago
  I feel like this is something way more talked about online than actually occurs IRL. I didn't get an iPhone until the 13 (2 years ago?) and I'm still on it. Nobody stopped talking to me because I had green bubbles throughout my, I dunno, 10-15 years of Android phones. They would make fun of me for how reactions (Bob laughs at $reply) looked on my screen but just friendly jabs. I am a millennial though.
  - freedomben 3y ago
    I think the age does make a big difference. I'm about 40, and I've rarely heard this IRL among people near or older either. The people I've heard it from were mostly in their teens or early 20s. Some 30s and 40s have admitted to leaving friends or family out of group chats because they were on Android though. But that said, how do you know nobody stopped talking to you because of it? One of my friends (who is early 40s) said his family started leaving one of their family members out of the group chats because it "degraded the whole experience" and I doubt he ever told the person he was being left out, let alone why. I would imagine it's kind of like telling somebody that you aren't going to date them anymore because they're not attractive enough. Not something you want to admit, and even though it obviously happens, I've never heard of somebody actually being told this.
    - swozey 3y ago
      Maybe I've been kept out of group chats, it is annoying group chatting an imessage thread with android in it. I forget what it does but something is strange about it, but I'd definitely remember if someone I remotely cared about talking to just ghosted my SMS one day. I can't think of that ever happening. I had tons of friends in my 20s and almost none of them ever used Android. It was mostly tech people I knew that used Android. But, yeah, who knows. Probably nothing lost.
hot_gril 3y ago
> You're not adding these people to WhatsApp So far, yeah I have been. Android users don't seem to use RCS for anything advanced, they use WhatsApp. Anyway, iPhones already let you toggle MMS, so RCS might be togglable too.
- deleted 3y ago
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turquoisevar 3y ago
Then, they can text me over SMS/MMS like they already do. Besides, some of the examples you mention I'd rather have via email instead of text for record-keeping purposes.
tomjen3 3y ago
I had a mechanic send me a video about a problem with my car. He just SMSed me a link to their systems, where I could also approve the additional work after reviewing the video. It worked just fine.
qingcharles 3y ago
If you can't afford a data plan then it just essentially blocks all your incoming/outgoing messages when it enables itself.
- notatoad 3y ago
  >If you can't afford a data plan or if you're like my parents, and pay for a plan with plenty of data but leave it switched off at all times just because you don't want to accidentally go over your cap.
notatoad 3y ago
you can still send photos over MMS. and you can also add your plumber or realtor on whatsapp. there's no reason not to. it's just a messaging app, i've got all kinds of customers and vendors on my whatsapp.
microflash 3y ago
The reason I'd turn off is because of spam. Everytime RCS was enabled on my phone, I was bombarded with all kinds of nauseating spam. I'd like an option to avoid this infliction.
Shekelphile 3y ago
> What if you hire a contractor for some work and they need to send you pictures/video from an Android? I would absolutely not want to do business with a contractor that uses an android phone. That's a serious red flag for someone doing work on a (usually very expensive) home to be using cheap tools.
- thirdsun 3y ago
  Wow. I mean, I'd never buy an Android device myself but I find such a strong opinion very surprising.
- inkysigma 3y ago
  Do you also exclude contractors that don't have a fully decked out Ford F-350? What if they carry a cheap $1 pen instead of a $50 pen to write some quotes for you? Also, you realize there are android phones that are plenty expensive right?