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They absolutely can subpoena Bytedance. Congress did. They have offices in the US: https://maps.app.goo.gl/XqJdQyvTCQ1ZUEa96 https://maps.app.goo.gl/XqJdQyvTCQ1

They absolutely can subpoena Bytedance. Congress did. They have offices in the US: https://maps.app.goo.gl/XqJdQyvTCQ1ZUEa96 https://maps.app.goo.gl/XqJdQyvTCQ1ZUEa96

ceejayoz 3y ago
Don't be intentionally obtuse. Facebook has offices in China, too, but that doesn't mean Zuckerberg's gonna surrender himself if they invite him over for a chat with the Ministry of Public Security. California can readily reach Facebook's headquarters and top leadership. California cannot do the same to TikTok. Investigations into the two organizations will face very different challenges in obtaining information.
- YeBanKo 3y ago
  I am no obtuse, you are ignoring reality. Shou Zi Chew testified before Congress and lied through his teeth that they will invest in restructuring to store US users data in the US and insulate it from CCP government, which is impossible without significant US presence. TikTok's current head of operations, Adam Presser is a US national, as well as his predecessor. If Californian cared about kids mental health, they would absolutely go after TikTok. Do you also think that California should not go after drug trade, because cartels that run it are outside of the US and Californian jurisdiction?
  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    > Shou Zi Chew testified before Congress and lied through his teeth So, what will we do about it? How will we subpoena ByteDance's internal emails and commuications with the Chinese Ministry of Public Security to demonstrate that he knowingly lied? If we get a valid warrant for Zuckerberg's emails, we'll have them in our hands shortly thereafter. If we get a warrant for Liang Rubo's, we won't. This presents obvious challenges to an investigation. > Do you also think that California should not go after drug trade, because cartels that run it are outside of the US and Californian jurisdiction? I think trying to do it by suing the cartels isn't a particularly promising approach.

They absolutely can subpoena Bytedance. Congress did. They have offices in the US: https://maps.app.goo.gl/XqJdQyvTCQ1ZUEa96 https://maps.app.goo.gl/XqJdQyvTCQ1ZUEa96

ceejayoz 3y ago

Don't be intentionally obtuse. Facebook has offices in China, too, but that doesn't mean Zuckerberg's gonna surrender himself if they invite him over for a chat with the Ministry of Public Security. California can readily reach Facebook's headquarters and top leadership. California cannot do the same to TikTok. Investigations into the two organizations will face very different challenges in obtaining information.

YeBanKo 3y ago
I am no obtuse, you are ignoring reality. Shou Zi Chew testified before Congress and lied through his teeth that they will invest in restructuring to store US users data in the US and insulate it from CCP government, which is impossible without significant US presence. TikTok's current head of operations, Adam Presser is a US national, as well as his predecessor. If Californian cared about kids mental health, they would absolutely go after TikTok. Do you also think that California should not go after drug trade, because cartels that run it are outside of the US and Californian jurisdiction?
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  > Shou Zi Chew testified before Congress and lied through his teeth So, what will we do about it? How will we subpoena ByteDance's internal emails and commuications with the Chinese Ministry of Public Security to demonstrate that he knowingly lied? If we get a valid warrant for Zuckerberg's emails, we'll have them in our hands shortly thereafter. If we get a warrant for Liang Rubo's, we won't. This presents obvious challenges to an investigation. > Do you also think that California should not go after drug trade, because cartels that run it are outside of the US and Californian jurisdiction? I think trying to do it by suing the cartels isn't a particularly promising approach.