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This is a timely reminder to anyone still using Zimbra 8.x.x that is reaches EOL at the end of next month. There is no official open release of later versions d

This is a timely reminder to anyone still using Zimbra 8.x.x that is reaches EOL at the end of next month. There is no official open release of later versions despite much being covered by open source licenses. If you have not already moved off Zimbra you need to, ASAP, do one of the following: 1. Pay for Zimbra and upgrade that way. 2. Try compile up a later version yourself… 3. Migrate to one of the forks that sprang up (most of them are dead though, Zextras/Carbonio is still going but last time I looked the system requirements were a bit daft for what little functionality I actually need) 4. Migrate to something else entirely.

jsilence 3y ago
Not sure what you are talking about. To me it looks like you can just DL and install 9.0 or 10.0 community release. Am I missing something? https://www.zimbra.com/product/download/zimbra-collaboration-network-edition/ https://www.zimbra.com/product/download/zimbra-collaboration...
- slipheen 3y ago
  Looking at the links on that page, the only links for 9.0 or 10.0 look to be for the network edition (non oss) I'm not familiar with the situation, but reading through https://blog.zimbra.com/2020/05/is-zimbra-open-source-yes-faqs-about-zimbra-ose-for-you/ https://blog.zimbra.com/2020/05/is-zimbra-open-source-yes-fa... suggests that they do still provide source for at least some portions of 9.x, but they no longer provide binaries or packages. It looks like some components may be missing ("Modern UI"), but I don't know if it's usable without them.
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- dspillett 3y ago
  9.0 onwards never has a “community edition” release so people self-hosting that rather than paying for licensing for “network edition” have stuck at 8.x. Note that there are two downloads for 8.8.15 on the linked page, one of which is marked “open source”. Anyone who is still there has been getting security updates, but that stops being the case once 8.8.15 hits EOL.
doublerabbit 3y ago
I'm one of those who needs to upgrade and the pre sales part is hell. Either your not big enough to get any priority. They never reply. Or the costs are just too stupid for a personal account with 5-10 mailboxes. I host on-prem too, via colocation which then increases the cost ten-fold. It's as these companies don't want customers. Liked the look to IceWarp suite and yet they've been non-existence in sales that I end up expecting though out.
- godzillabrennus 3y ago
  https://proton.me/mail https://proton.me/mail Has improved a lot if you can tolerate third party hosted (but still privacy centric solutions).
- CableNinja 3y ago
  Ive been using the free Axigen version for years, pretty good, no shenanigans
  - doublerabbit 3y ago
    Thank you. I'm really looking forward to trying their suite out. Ticks all the right boxes.
- dspillett 3y ago
  My needs have changed a lot over the years. I no longer run company email for DayJob¹, and for the server I ran for myself, family & friends, I've jammed together a mail server³ from standard parts. I still have Zimbra running behind a firewall (those who need access do so via SSH tunnel) for archive access, in case anything didn't transfer cleanly to the new arrangement and for things I didn't bother transferring. ---- [1] since we've grown we have infrastructure/support people who look after that instead of muggins here doing everything, and we've long since² moved over to O365 [2] at least one buy-out ago [3] the number of actual users⁴ is down to me and three others, and we barely used features beyond mail in the end [4] more accounts used by those human users
- tbyehl 3y ago
redundantly 3y ago
I've heard good things about mailcow https://mailcow.email/ https://mailcow.email/
wmf 3y ago
Where's the OpenZim Foundation when you need it?

jsilence 3y ago

Not sure what you are talking about. To me it looks like you can just DL and install 9.0 or 10.0 community release. Am I missing something? https://www.zimbra.com/product/download/zimbra-collaboration-network-edition/ https://www.zimbra.com/product/download/zimbra-collaboration...

slipheen 3y ago
Looking at the links on that page, the only links for 9.0 or 10.0 look to be for the network edition (non oss) I'm not familiar with the situation, but reading through https://blog.zimbra.com/2020/05/is-zimbra-open-source-yes-faqs-about-zimbra-ose-for-you/ https://blog.zimbra.com/2020/05/is-zimbra-open-source-yes-fa... suggests that they do still provide source for at least some portions of 9.x, but they no longer provide binaries or packages. It looks like some components may be missing ("Modern UI"), but I don't know if it's usable without them.
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dspillett 3y ago
9.0 onwards never has a “community edition” release so people self-hosting that rather than paying for licensing for “network edition” have stuck at 8.x. Note that there are two downloads for 8.8.15 on the linked page, one of which is marked “open source”. Anyone who is still there has been getting security updates, but that stops being the case once 8.8.15 hits EOL.

doublerabbit 3y ago

I'm one of those who needs to upgrade and the pre sales part is hell. Either your not big enough to get any priority. They never reply. Or the costs are just too stupid for a personal account with 5-10 mailboxes. I host on-prem too, via colocation which then increases the cost ten-fold. It's as these companies don't want customers. Liked the look to IceWarp suite and yet they've been non-existence in sales that I end up expecting though out.

godzillabrennus 3y ago
https://proton.me/mail https://proton.me/mail Has improved a lot if you can tolerate third party hosted (but still privacy centric solutions).
CableNinja 3y ago
Ive been using the free Axigen version for years, pretty good, no shenanigans
- doublerabbit 3y ago
  Thank you. I'm really looking forward to trying their suite out. Ticks all the right boxes.
dspillett 3y ago
My needs have changed a lot over the years. I no longer run company email for DayJob¹, and for the server I ran for myself, family & friends, I've jammed together a mail server³ from standard parts. I still have Zimbra running behind a firewall (those who need access do so via SSH tunnel) for archive access, in case anything didn't transfer cleanly to the new arrangement and for things I didn't bother transferring. ---- [1] since we've grown we have infrastructure/support people who look after that instead of muggins here doing everything, and we've long since² moved over to O365 [2] at least one buy-out ago [3] the number of actual users⁴ is down to me and three others, and we barely used features beyond mail in the end [4] more accounts used by those human users
tbyehl 3y ago

redundantly 3y ago

I've heard good things about mailcow https://mailcow.email/ https://mailcow.email/

wmf 3y ago

Where's the OpenZim Foundation when you need it?