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I'd prefer a federated solution, but XMPP doesn't yet have decent support for group chat that doesn't depend on being connected. https://xmpp.org/extensions/att
by rodlette 3y ago
I'd prefer a federated solution, but XMPP doesn't yet have decent support for group chat that doesn't depend on being connected. https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0369-0.1.html https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0369-0.1.html is still experimental.
Bravo to Signal for being easy enough for my family to use!
- fsflover 3y agoWhat about Matrix?
- rodlette 3y agoI've tried a few times. It always felt... clunky? I tried Element. UI felt slow, I was unable to find notifications in scrollback. Clicking the notification button would take me to random messages.
- fsflover 3y agoThere are very many clients lighter than Element.
- rodlette 3y agoI remembered another issue with Matrix. Signal and XMPP (via Quickly) have a simple phone number based signup workflow that my family have grown used to. My family are not happy on having to remember/use passwords/keys. That's a shame, but is ultimately a constraint I have to deal with when persuading them to install/use an IM app.
- rodlette 3y agoReplying to myself... looks like some Matrix homeservers support OpenID-style login. That's probably fine for family.
- godelski 3y agoFwiw, I've seen users suggest hybrid approaches. Interestingly it could reduce some of the costs they list here and looks like a route one could take to slowly build towards a fully or hybrid federated system instead of jumping straight there. But I am unsure how much the community likes the idea and judging by that last post it doesn't seem like the mods do. But this one takes note as two users were willing to place a bounty on the feature request https://community.signalusers.org/t/signal-airdrop/37402 https://community.signalusers.org/t/signal-airdrop/37402
- NoGravitas 3y agoMatrix fixes that issue (and also the issue of the server your group chat is hosted on disappearing). It has plenty of other issues, of course.