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Well, the SEC can refer all they want, but the DOJ is going to have jurisdiction over approximately 0% of the referrals.
by jerf 3y ago
Well, the SEC can refer all they want, but the DOJ is going to have jurisdiction over approximately 0% of the referrals.
- RandomLensman 3y agoWant to refer it to the DOD instead?
- brewdad 3y agoInterior? Education? We can keep referring until we hit the right department.
- nvy 3y agoThe joke is that DOD is the long arm of US foreign policy. Can't prosecute? Invade.
- jerf 3y agoDefinitely closer to what I mean. Intelligence agencies is probably closer to the reality though. To those mystified by my crypticness, yes, my point is that the criminals are going to not be in the US and be where the US can't simply prosecute them, and this is not just a coincidence. They are in those places for that very reason. They may even be actively supported by their local government, so don't count on extradition or anything else like that. Even nominally friendly governments that we have treaties with are perfectly capable of 100% coincidentally simply not being able to find those guys, so sorry, we feel really bad for you though, if they want to. Paper is only worth the actions it produces.
- bluGill 3y agoThat depends. Most countries you refer to the department of state who in turn talks to law enforcement in the country where the hackers are from and that country takes care of the problem. However most hackers seem to be from countries like Russia, or North Korea where law enforcement will tell the state department to go away. DoD probably is the only option we have (though intelligence/CIA should get involved) - is it worth war?
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> the DOJ is going to have jurisdiction over approximately 0% of the referrals Why? A U.S.-listed company was hacked.
- hiatus 3y agoI think they are referring to jurisdiction to enforce any judgement against the actor, which is likely in a foreign state with no extradition agreement with the US.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> jurisdiction to enforce any judgement against the actor, which is likely in a foreign state with no extradition agreement with the US Justice has a long memory. A common theme, when new extradition agreements are struck, usually in the context of trade or security arrangements, is how to deal with the backlog of overdue enforcement.
- hiatus 3y agoI agree in general, but I won't hold my breath for any agreement to be made between the US and Russia, Iran, North Korea, or China in my lifetime.