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Not sure about Dreamweaver, but the fact that no Frontpage equivalent exists this day and age, and armies of developers are grappling with HTML, React and Graph

by hliyan 3y ago

Not sure about Dreamweaver, but the fact that no Frontpage equivalent exists this day and age, and armies of developers are grappling with HTML, React and GraphQL (e.g. Gatsby) to generate what are essentially websites, is very surprising.

lakpan 3y ago
Of course it exists, it’s just not produced by Microsoft and therefore relatively few people use it. Webflow has been around for a while and I’m sure they implemented AI already (I didn’t even check). Other React-based tools surely also exist, but have an even smaller user base.
hirako2000 3y ago
There are countless of no-code tools to build landing pages, static site content. For web apps the level of custom logic makes it unavoible to just code. Since web developers tend to be coders they would code static sites too. And use what they are most comfortable with, usually React.
- andai 3y ago
  My friend works on a low code system marketed to small governments. (Basically just CRUD builder optimized for bureaucracy.) There's definitely a niche for it, it just hasn't caught on much for some reason.
quest88 3y ago
I'd like to talk about today's sponsor, Squarespace. (in Jest, I know it doesn't solve every problem!)
- andai 3y ago
  I used to look down on it but when I heard it handles payment it blew my mind and I decided I'd rather use it myself if I ever make a shop instead of building it myself. To quote a random guy "I trust their code more than what I wrote at 2am."
  - fallingknife 3y ago
    I am a SWE. When I needed a website for a small business I was running, I used squarespace too. If you just need a static public facing site it's absolutely great.
    - joshstrange 3y ago
      Same here. I used to scoff at their prices “I could do that for way cheaper”, and I could/can… if my time is worthless which it’s not. Now for things that aren’t my core business (day job or side project) I’m much more likely to reach for a paid off-the-shelf solution. After months of putting off building a marketing website for my side project I just paid for a tool to build/host it so all I had to do was plug in my info. Yes I could have hosted it for pennies on S3 with CloudFront in front of it but instead I setup a cname, paid like $20 for the year, and let this other company handle the responsive design (template) for me.
- hliyan 3y ago
  For some weird reason, "Squarespace" keeps reminding me of a location-based social network from the early 2000's. Did I imagine that? Or did the domain and trademark get bought?
  - alxmng 3y ago
    You might be thinking of “Foursquare” :)
    - hliyan 3y ago
      Thank you! That's the one.
eloisant 3y ago
That's because things that were made with Frontpage back in the day are not made in HTML/React/GraphQL today. They're made with Wordpress, Squarespace, etc.

by hliyan 3y ago

lakpan 3y ago

Of course it exists, it’s just not produced by Microsoft and therefore relatively few people use it. Webflow has been around for a while and I’m sure they implemented AI already (I didn’t even check). Other React-based tools surely also exist, but have an even smaller user base.

hirako2000 3y ago

There are countless of no-code tools to build landing pages, static site content. For web apps the level of custom logic makes it unavoible to just code. Since web developers tend to be coders they would code static sites too. And use what they are most comfortable with, usually React.

andai 3y ago
My friend works on a low code system marketed to small governments. (Basically just CRUD builder optimized for bureaucracy.) There's definitely a niche for it, it just hasn't caught on much for some reason.

quest88 3y ago

I'd like to talk about today's sponsor, Squarespace. (in Jest, I know it doesn't solve every problem!)

andai 3y ago
I used to look down on it but when I heard it handles payment it blew my mind and I decided I'd rather use it myself if I ever make a shop instead of building it myself. To quote a random guy "I trust their code more than what I wrote at 2am."
- fallingknife 3y ago
  I am a SWE. When I needed a website for a small business I was running, I used squarespace too. If you just need a static public facing site it's absolutely great.
  - joshstrange 3y ago
    Same here. I used to scoff at their prices “I could do that for way cheaper”, and I could/can… if my time is worthless which it’s not. Now for things that aren’t my core business (day job or side project) I’m much more likely to reach for a paid off-the-shelf solution. After months of putting off building a marketing website for my side project I just paid for a tool to build/host it so all I had to do was plug in my info. Yes I could have hosted it for pennies on S3 with CloudFront in front of it but instead I setup a cname, paid like $20 for the year, and let this other company handle the responsive design (template) for me.
hliyan 3y ago
For some weird reason, "Squarespace" keeps reminding me of a location-based social network from the early 2000's. Did I imagine that? Or did the domain and trademark get bought?
- alxmng 3y ago
  You might be thinking of “Foursquare” :)
  - hliyan 3y ago
    Thank you! That's the one.

eloisant 3y ago

That's because things that were made with Frontpage back in the day are not made in HTML/React/GraphQL today. They're made with Wordpress, Squarespace, etc.