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In other news, more than 70% of Americans are overweight or obese according to scales where the fat end of "normal" is already objectively overweight.

josefresco 3y ago
Obesity prevalence in Americans is actually about 42% https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html
- tekla 3y ago
  Of course, the poster said overweight or obese, and they would be right. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/obesity-prevention-source/obesity-trends-original/obesity-rates-worldwide/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/obesity-prevention-source/obesi... > Roughly two out of three U.S. adults are overweight or obese (69 percent) and one out of three are obese (36 percent). Disgusting trends
  - spacemadness 3y ago
    Uuuugh BMI. Something a twelve year old might come up with but is still the gold standard. Every weight lifter has a laugh when it comes back as overweight or obese and they get suggestions on how to trim down. For non-strength sport practitioners it may make more sense.
    - formerly_proven 3y ago
      Yes, clearly a majority of the population are well-trained athletes. It's all muscles and heavy bones.
    - oblio 3y ago
      > For non-strength sport practitioners it may make more sense. Aka 99% of people out there?
- SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
  The poster you're responding to said obese or overweight. Maybe they edited after you responded?
giantg2 3y ago
The fat end of normal is most certainly not "objectively" overweight. BMI is a fairly flawed system, created during a time of hardship without sufficient demographic/physiological diversity. I'm the "fat end of normal" and nobody has ever consisdered calling me fat. Once you get over 6' the BMI chart gets absurd, assumingly due to physiological differences in population from then and now. Take someone who is 6'3". 150-190 lbs is "normal". If most people saw a 150 lb 6'3" man, they'd say they look emaciated. I would guess that most 6'3" men who look fit still weigh over 190lbs.
- tekla 3y ago
  This is just a byproduct of Americans becoming so fat that "normal" is now considered "hilariously underweight" > 6'3". 150-190 lbs is "normal" Yes, that is normal. Go to other countries that have tall people, and most of them will easily fall into that range. Americans as a whole are INCREDIBLY overweight in general.
  - pwthornton 3y ago
    6'3, 150 would be very lanky and thin looking. I'm 6'1, and my lean mass is more than that.
    - TheCoelacanth 3y ago
      That's three pounds away from being underweight, so obviously it's pretty skinny.
  - giantg2 3y ago
    So in one comment you consider the top end this range (c 180-190) to be objectively overweight, yet now you call it normal?
- hotpotamus 3y ago
  6'1" here and I can speak to this as well. I've straight up had women tell me I look worse at 175 than around 190 (and looking at pictures of myself at different weights, I'd say I looked skinny even thought 175 is still above the midline of normal BMI). Technically the line is right at 189; 188 is normal weight and 189 is overweight so I try and just ride the top of normal and focus on being fit.

josefresco 3y ago

Obesity prevalence in Americans is actually about 42% https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html

tekla 3y ago
Of course, the poster said overweight or obese, and they would be right. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/obesity-prevention-source/obesity-trends-original/obesity-rates-worldwide/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/obesity-prevention-source/obesi... > Roughly two out of three U.S. adults are overweight or obese (69 percent) and one out of three are obese (36 percent). Disgusting trends
- spacemadness 3y ago
  Uuuugh BMI. Something a twelve year old might come up with but is still the gold standard. Every weight lifter has a laugh when it comes back as overweight or obese and they get suggestions on how to trim down. For non-strength sport practitioners it may make more sense.
  - formerly_proven 3y ago
    Yes, clearly a majority of the population are well-trained athletes. It's all muscles and heavy bones.
  - oblio 3y ago
    > For non-strength sport practitioners it may make more sense. Aka 99% of people out there?
SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
The poster you're responding to said obese or overweight. Maybe they edited after you responded?

giantg2 3y ago

The fat end of normal is most certainly not "objectively" overweight. BMI is a fairly flawed system, created during a time of hardship without sufficient demographic/physiological diversity. I'm the "fat end of normal" and nobody has ever consisdered calling me fat. Once you get over 6' the BMI chart gets absurd, assumingly due to physiological differences in population from then and now. Take someone who is 6'3". 150-190 lbs is "normal". If most people saw a 150 lb 6'3" man, they'd say they look emaciated. I would guess that most 6'3" men who look fit still weigh over 190lbs.

tekla 3y ago
This is just a byproduct of Americans becoming so fat that "normal" is now considered "hilariously underweight" > 6'3". 150-190 lbs is "normal" Yes, that is normal. Go to other countries that have tall people, and most of them will easily fall into that range. Americans as a whole are INCREDIBLY overweight in general.
- pwthornton 3y ago
  6'3, 150 would be very lanky and thin looking. I'm 6'1, and my lean mass is more than that.
  - TheCoelacanth 3y ago
    That's three pounds away from being underweight, so obviously it's pretty skinny.
- giantg2 3y ago
  So in one comment you consider the top end this range (c 180-190) to be objectively overweight, yet now you call it normal?
hotpotamus 3y ago
6'1" here and I can speak to this as well. I've straight up had women tell me I look worse at 175 than around 190 (and looking at pictures of myself at different weights, I'd say I looked skinny even thought 175 is still above the midline of normal BMI). Technically the line is right at 189; 188 is normal weight and 189 is overweight so I try and just ride the top of normal and focus on being fit.