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How is Hammas attacking Israel an internal issue? It's a foreign actor invading a country (literally taking down the border) and attacking Israel. Even if it w

by tasn 3y ago

How is Hammas attacking Israel an internal issue? It's a foreign actor invading a country (literally taking down the border) and attacking Israel. Even if it was the case though, the UN has condemned Israel multiple times, why the difference? Shouldn't they avoid condemning Israel too as it's an internal dispute?

true_religion 3y ago
Some people do not internalize the idea that Palestine is a sovereign nation. At best, they consider it an occupied territory thus any conflict they have with Mother Israel is couched in terms like apartheid, segregation, and colonization. For an examples, look at how many commenters on this thread are calling this an “internal dispute” even though they fully support Palestine. Some Palestinian supporters don’t even recognize Hamas as the government of the Gaza Strip. How can a country exist without a government? People are just in support of the people.
- tasn 3y ago
  I'm not saying that they are or they aren't. I'm just saying that you can't have it both ways. Either it's an internal conflict or not. Though you can't have a one-sided agenda like the UN, at least in response to the October 7th terrorist attacks.
  - true_religion 3y ago
    In an internal conflict the only side you can put political pressure on is the ruling government. Let’s take as a hypothetical, some Waco style paramilitary starts terrorist sticks in the US, and in response the US military begins shelling Chicago night and day killing thousands more civilians and the terrorists ever did. Should the UN come out and censure both sides? The terrorists are just domestic criminals, and the UN doesn’t have a particular interest in that. However turning your military against helpless civilians is something the UN does care about. I’m not sure this fits 100% but it’s the logic I’m following.

by tasn 3y ago

true_religion 3y ago

Some people do not internalize the idea that Palestine is a sovereign nation. At best, they consider it an occupied territory thus any conflict they have with Mother Israel is couched in terms like apartheid, segregation, and colonization. For an examples, look at how many commenters on this thread are calling this an “internal dispute” even though they fully support Palestine. Some Palestinian supporters don’t even recognize Hamas as the government of the Gaza Strip. How can a country exist without a government? People are just in support of the people.

tasn 3y ago
I'm not saying that they are or they aren't. I'm just saying that you can't have it both ways. Either it's an internal conflict or not. Though you can't have a one-sided agenda like the UN, at least in response to the October 7th terrorist attacks.
- true_religion 3y ago
  In an internal conflict the only side you can put political pressure on is the ruling government. Let’s take as a hypothetical, some Waco style paramilitary starts terrorist sticks in the US, and in response the US military begins shelling Chicago night and day killing thousands more civilians and the terrorists ever did. Should the UN come out and censure both sides? The terrorists are just domestic criminals, and the UN doesn’t have a particular interest in that. However turning your military against helpless civilians is something the UN does care about. I’m not sure this fits 100% but it’s the logic I’m following.