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> If I recall correctly, the terrorists attacked the US because they "don't like freedom" The letter very clearly states that they don't like freedom! It very

> If I recall correctly, the terrorists attacked the US because they "don't like freedom" The letter very clearly states that they don't like freedom! It very specifically calls out permissiveness of sex, gays, banking (as every western nation sees it, contra Islamic banking), gambling, alcohol, and separation of church and state as evils: > (a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest. > (b) It is saddening to tell you that you are the worst civilization witnessed by the history of mankind: > (i) You are the nation who, rather than ruling by the Shariah of Allah in its Constitution and Laws, choose to invent your own laws as you will and desire. You separate religion from your policies, contradicting the pure nature which affirms Absolute Authority to the Lord and your Creator. > (iv) You are a nation that permits acts of immorality, and you consider them to be pillars of personal freedom. You have continued to sink down this abyss from level to level until incest has spread amongst you, in the face of which neither your sense of honour nor your laws object. Mad we didn't behead old Bill: > Who can forget your President Clinton's immoral acts committed in the official Oval office? After that you did not even bring him to account, other than that he 'made a mistake', after which everything passed with no punishment. Is there a worse kind of event for which your name will go down in history and remembered by nations?

93po 3y ago
It’s funny how it’s okay to call those things evil if you’re a conservative Christian group but we cling onto the same words as one of the justifications to kill and attack another group
- not_the_fda 3y ago
  In some circles they are called Y'all Qaeda
  - sshine 3y ago
    I guess the similarity falls short of justifying bombing civilians in another country... oh, wait.
- kljfdslkjwer 3y ago
  Not really. You're comparing free speech to what Al Qaeda is actually doing. Keeping women uneducated, lynching homosexuals, etc. I wouldn't say that the speech is "Ok" as much as it is simply tolerated in American democracy. Free speech is core American value, so you hear from the fringes. If they actually follow through and act (occasionally happens and makes national news), it is no longer be tolerated.
  - jdgoesmarching 3y ago
    America’s intentional disregard of the AIDS epidemic killed more LGBTQ+ folks than Al Qaeda ever could. It’s not 1:1 with education, but the current sweep of abortion legislation is an incredible act of violence towards women if you’ve followed the consequences of those laws. This isn’t a defense of UBL, I’m just pointing out that so much of this conversation is a matter of your ideology. If you think the only harm of the religious right in this country is simply a matter of tolerating their speech, then count yourself lucky to not be among or close to their victims.

93po 3y ago

It’s funny how it’s okay to call those things evil if you’re a conservative Christian group but we cling onto the same words as one of the justifications to kill and attack another group

not_the_fda 3y ago
In some circles they are called Y'all Qaeda
- sshine 3y ago
  I guess the similarity falls short of justifying bombing civilians in another country... oh, wait.
kljfdslkjwer 3y ago
Not really. You're comparing free speech to what Al Qaeda is actually doing. Keeping women uneducated, lynching homosexuals, etc. I wouldn't say that the speech is "Ok" as much as it is simply tolerated in American democracy. Free speech is core American value, so you hear from the fringes. If they actually follow through and act (occasionally happens and makes national news), it is no longer be tolerated.
- jdgoesmarching 3y ago
  America’s intentional disregard of the AIDS epidemic killed more LGBTQ+ folks than Al Qaeda ever could. It’s not 1:1 with education, but the current sweep of abortion legislation is an incredible act of violence towards women if you’ve followed the consequences of those laws. This isn’t a defense of UBL, I’m just pointing out that so much of this conversation is a matter of your ideology. If you think the only harm of the religious right in this country is simply a matter of tolerating their speech, then count yourself lucky to not be among or close to their victims.