You didn't address any of the points I made, and that's a straw man definition of ad-hominem. Ad-hominem is not specifically about tarnishing reputations, or u

You didn't address any of the points I made, and that's a straw man definition of ad-hominem. Ad-hominem is not specifically about tarnishing reputations, or unrelated attacks, although these can be part of it. If you look at a real definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem You'll see that it conforms to what I said in my previous comment. You have clearly indicated that you think the position of Apple users is less valid because of their loyalty to the company. That is ad-hominem - attacking the position by pointing out a characteristic of the person rather than the position, and is a fallacy designed to mislead the audience. You also think that negative positions about Google are more prevalent amongst Apple users. On that point we have agreed from the beginning, but I haven't argued against that so repeatedly defending it is just another straw-man. [edit: You added 'go away troll' to your comment after I posted this. That doesn't make your argument seem very strong.]