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It must be quite an experience to talk to someone who unabashedly calls for apartheid. I'm more familiar in the west with people making racist or homophobic or
by mathieuh 3y ago
It must be quite an experience to talk to someone who unabashedly calls for apartheid. I'm more familiar in the west with people making racist or homophobic or whatever statements but then denying that they are themselves racist or homophobic. To see someone just lean into and say "we the Jews are the sovereigns in the state of Israel and in the Land of Israel. They have to accept it" is something else.
- draw_down 3y agoOne way or the other, I rather imagine that apartheid would still be a half-measure in the eyes of this person.
- newsclues 3y agoSeems like calling for the genocide of Jews perhaps has in part lead to this. When facing an existential crisis, people unite for security.
- narinxas 3y agofrom the other side: "in order to unify people, give them a common enemy"
- jampekka 3y agoGenocide for a genocide makes the world what?
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- newsclues 3y agoStupid.
- dzolob 3y agoSure your existence is at threat. Specially when your land is being taken, your houses are being bulldozed, your hospitals and schools bombed, and you deserve it because “you didn’t do anything to prevent becoming a human shield”, or should I say, because you are “an animal”.
- newsclues 3y agoBoth sides feel the same, their existence is at risk. Israeli authorities built iron dome to protect their citizens. What did Hamas do to protect their existence, rockets, suicide attackers and hostage taking? Struggling to find the equivalence.
- true_religion 3y agoI don’t think anyone supports Hamas. Even Palestinians don’t seem to truly support them, but are living in resignation as Hamas has done away with the democratic process. To me it seems like Hamas is a puppet of foreign powers who want to destroy or harass Israel, not save Palestine. Hamas actions are designed to trigger an extreme response, but now that it’s here… most of the fallout is happening to people who don’t deserve it, don’t support Hamas, and simply don’t want to die. Israel is currently digging a grave, but they are going to bury their reputation along with their enemies.
- tivert 3y ago> I don’t think anyone supports Hamas. Even Palestinians don’t seem to truly support them That's not true: https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/polls-show-majority-gazans-were-against-breaking-ceasefire-hamas-and-hezbollah https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/polls-sh...: > Nevertheless, there is widespread popular appeal for competing armed Palestinian factions, including those involved in the attack. Overall, 57% of Gazans express at least a somewhat positive opinion of Hamas—along with similar percentages of Palestinians in the West Bank (52%) and East Jerusalem (64%)—though Gazans who express this opinion of Hamas are fewer than the number of Gazans who have a positive view of Fatah (64%). > But it is organizations like Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) and Lion’s Den that receive the most widespread popular support in Gaza. About three quarters of Gazans express support for both groups, including 40% who see the Lion’s Den in a “very positive” light, an attitude shared by a similar percentage of West Bank residents.
- true_religion 3y ago
- jampekka 3y agoAnd it's quite a thing that criticizing this gets you labeled as a racist, even though the thing you are criticizing is actual literal full blown racism.
- true_religion 3y agoAdjuration of land disputes between two similar tribes really shouldn’t open one up to accusations of racism by default. It’s the explanation of why Israel ought to have the land that may or may not be racist. For example if someone says they have right to it by conquest, then that’s not a racist argument… it’s “just” barbaric.