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I would very strongly urge people to actually work and build tools with LLMs. Its readily apparent after a point that the previous poster is correct, and that
by intended 3y ago
I would very strongly urge people to actually work and build tools with LLMs.
Its readily apparent after a point that the previous poster is correct, and that these are simply tools.
They are impressive tools yes. But life they are not. At best, they are mimics.
- persnickety 3y agoI can't help but notice that you backed up your assertions with nothing objective at all.
- intended 3y agoeffort commensurate to the depth of the thread and effort of others. I have longer comments in my history, you can read those if you must. Besides, why wouldnt someone build things? This is HN.
- naasking 3y ago> But life they are not. At best, they are mimics A mimicry of fire is not fire because fire is a reaction between matter. A mimicry of intelligence may well be intelligence, because intelligence is just information processing. We're not talking here about "life", but intelligence and "internal life", aka feelings, thoughts, etc. Edit: as for the argument that "LLMs are simply tools", it has been quite easy for our ancestors to also dehumanize other people and treat them as tools. That was a core justification of slavery. This is simply not a convincing argument that LLMs lack an internal life. People fool themselves all of the time.
- intended 3y agoI havent read it, but Blindsight did a very good job of explaining LLMs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindsight_(Watts_novel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindsight_(Watts_novel) I am saying that LLMs DONT process information, not the way people are implying. The best I can suggest is to please try building with an LLM. Its very hard to explain the nuance, and I am not the only one struggling with it.
- naasking 3y agoI understand the nuance, I think you're just wrong. LLMs augmented with memory are Turing complete [1], so they do process information. This distinction you're trying to draw is a mirage. [1] https://pub.towardsai.net/llms-and-memory-is-definitely-all-you-need-google-shows-that-memory-augmented-llms-can-simulate-4432f9f7923a https://pub.towardsai.net/llms-and-memory-is-definitely-all-...
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- robwwilliams 3y agoAugmented with memory and perhaps a bit more—-recursive control of their own attentional mechanisms.
- therealdrag0 3y agoYou gotta read it!