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> ...our commitment to becoming a net-zero company by 2050... So, I'm building a bridge. Should be done in 2050. Any investors interested?

by notfed 3y ago

wiz21c 3y ago
If they want clean aviation, they can just do it. But please, could they make sure they let the customers pay for that through their ticket price ? I don't want my tax money to be used for that.
- kolinko 3y ago
  That is what's happening. When you buy a plane ticket, in many airlines, you have an option to pay extra to fly on SAF.
  - parski 3y ago
    When you buy your ticket you have an option to donate to the airline's greenwashing campaign.
    - RugnirViking 3y ago
      wouldn't be surprised if they were BOTH able to claim subsidies based on this as well, and write it off on their taxes. Triple dipping !
    - PlunderBunny 3y ago
      Your cynicism might be warranted, but it's now always true. The airline I fly for domestic travel (Air New Zealand) has - in the past - donated some of the money from customers selecting to offset emissions, to the Native Forest Restoration Trust [0], a charity that buys strategic parcels of land, re-plants, and then maintains the land after protecting it forever for the public using the QE II trust. I don't consider that to be greenwashing - that's real and useful. 0. https://www.nfrt.org.nz https://www.nfrt.org.nz
  - adolph 3y ago
    Indulgences became increasingly popular in the Middle Ages as a reward for displaying piety and doing good deeds . . . . With the permission of the church, indulgences also became a way for Catholic rulers to fund expensive projects, such as Crusades and cathedrals, by keeping a significant portion of the money raised from indulgences in their lands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence#Early_and_medieval_beliefs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence#Early_and_medieval_...
- Angostura 3y ago
  > I don't want my tax money to be used for that. Being part of a global reponse to save the world from catastrophic climate change by changing industrial infrastructure sounds like just the kind of thing that tax money should go on.
JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> I'm building a bridge. Should be done in 2050. Are you suggesting 25-year timelines are too long to countenance [1]? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_megaprojects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_megaprojects

> ...our commitment to becoming a net-zero company by 2050... So, I'm building a bridge. Should be done in 2050. Any investors interested?

by notfed 3y ago

> ...our commitment to becoming a net-zero company by 2050... So, I'm building a bridge. Should be done in 2050. Any investors interested?

wiz21c 3y ago

If they want clean aviation, they can just do it. But please, could they make sure they let the customers pay for that through their ticket price ? I don't want my tax money to be used for that.

kolinko 3y ago
That is what's happening. When you buy a plane ticket, in many airlines, you have an option to pay extra to fly on SAF.
- parski 3y ago
  When you buy your ticket you have an option to donate to the airline's greenwashing campaign.
  - RugnirViking 3y ago
    wouldn't be surprised if they were BOTH able to claim subsidies based on this as well, and write it off on their taxes. Triple dipping !
  - PlunderBunny 3y ago
    Your cynicism might be warranted, but it's now always true. The airline I fly for domestic travel (Air New Zealand) has - in the past - donated some of the money from customers selecting to offset emissions, to the Native Forest Restoration Trust [0], a charity that buys strategic parcels of land, re-plants, and then maintains the land after protecting it forever for the public using the QE II trust. I don't consider that to be greenwashing - that's real and useful. 0. https://www.nfrt.org.nz https://www.nfrt.org.nz
- adolph 3y ago
  Indulgences became increasingly popular in the Middle Ages as a reward for displaying piety and doing good deeds . . . . With the permission of the church, indulgences also became a way for Catholic rulers to fund expensive projects, such as Crusades and cathedrals, by keeping a significant portion of the money raised from indulgences in their lands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence#Early_and_medieval_beliefs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence#Early_and_medieval_...
Angostura 3y ago
> I don't want my tax money to be used for that. Being part of a global reponse to save the world from catastrophic climate change by changing industrial infrastructure sounds like just the kind of thing that tax money should go on.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> I'm building a bridge. Should be done in 2050. Are you suggesting 25-year timelines are too long to countenance [1]? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_megaprojects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_megaprojects