Firebase seems a case in point. You have to do all this weird Google cloud shit to get something basic working. I posit that using Firebase is more complicated

Firebase seems a case in point. You have to do all this weird Google cloud shit to get something basic working. I posit that using Firebase is more complicated at the outset than installing an ORM and using postgres. And being nosql it gets worse from that point on. So it’s raison detre of making it easy to build apps is lost.