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Nolan Says Buy Oppenheimer on Blu-ray So No Evil Streaming Service Can Steal It
- xnx 3y agoI love Christopher Nolans movies, but there is something seriously wrong with the audio mix on Oppenheimer that makes the dialogue inaudible. I cannot see how that was a deliberate artistic choice.
- horrible-hilde 3y agoYes, will do, Im buying Barbie too.
- hindsightbias 3y agoBefore or after I buy that new 95" Sony OLED?
- wmf 3y agoNolan's so traumatized by Tenet streaming on HBO Max. Let it go, man.
- lkois 3y agoWhat’s the story there?
- dilyevsky 3y agoHbo (owned by wb - the studio behind tenet) released it at the same time as theatrical release bc it was in the middle of covid and most theaters were closed anyway. Nolan didn’t like it tho https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/8/22162918/christopher-nolan-tenet-hbo-max-warner-bros-streaming-service-cinematic-releases https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/8/22162918/christopher-nola...
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- dvngnt_ 3y agohe's not wrong. I heard they cut entire episodes of community
- webmaven 3y ago> he's not wrong. I heard they cut entire episodes of community Did you mean "continuity"?
- crtasm 3y agoI think they're referring to https://deadline.com/2020/06/netflix-hulu-pull-episode-community-due-to-blackface-scene-1202971493/ https://deadline.com/2020/06/netflix-hulu-pull-episode-commu...
- ugh123 3y ago>“I’m known for my love of theatrical and put my whole life into that, but, the truth is, the way the film goes out at home is equally important.” Thats respectable. But if he cares so much about that then him and the studios should demand more from streaming services, if they're not reaching his bar for video and audio quality.
- exzalgre 3y agoI read a great user review on a film ranking site for guy Ritchie’s film the covenant that said something approximating “he liberated himself from his own genre” and I sometimes feel that Nolan’s work could use some of that. I have issue both outright with the material of Oppenheimer, and his handling of it, but on release I waited an extra 3 weeks to get a reasonably positioned seat in one of the imax 70mm showings. And it made me realize something. Even if people like Nolan or pta or Tarantino swear by film, and even if they’re right!, what matters is if the theater owners care about film, because the presentation was terrible. There were flies on the lens obstructing the image with little furry dust balls crawling all over the picture. There was roughly 5 minutes worth of a red line down the picture, just to the left of center, in various 20 second chunks throughout the film. Also just culture shocked by imax 70mm because it frames the film in essentially 4:3. Growing up in the states in the 90s has me associating 4:3 with sitcom tv. So is the 4:3 framing the “intended” framing? Are home media viewers encouraged to drop the majority of their screen real estate when watching this? Does the home release have a 16:9 cut? Did Nolan reframe it? (These questions likely have answers for anyone who really wants to know but this article was light on actionable details other than “it is cause he said it is”) At a similar special showing I thought hateful 8 used theatrical 70mm to great effect. I liked the first fifth of Oppenheimer. Mostly the imaginative practical effect asides of seeing into the mind of someone laboring over matter at this scale. It lost me right around the time Nolan cruelly mangled this absolutely chilling moment into a “get it up” punchline. https://youtube.com/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac https://youtube.com/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac
- laserlight 3y agoI watched Interstellar in a movie theater with remarkably low image quality. The picture was as if they had chosen the wrong gamma setting. I was very dissatisfied with Nolan's work at the time, because I didn't know that it was a presentation issue. Ironically, I realized that it was so only when I've seen it again on my home TV, which was not a high quality one, but still produced better image quality than what the theater had offered me.
- superkuh 3y agoCan't a Blu-ray's playback be disabled by revoking the AACS cert (or whatever key) the blue-ray uses for DRM in the blu-ray players? Especially since they're all always connected now.
- SteveNuts 3y agoLibreDrive firmware + Makemkv for the win
- justinclift 3y agoInteresting. Hadn't heard of LibreDrive before. For anyone else wondering, this seems like a good explanation: https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18856 https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18856
- SteveNuts 3y agoYeah, the wording around it is a little confusing, but the tl;dr on it is you use their firmware flashing tool to overwrite the existing firmware on your Blu-ray/dvd/UHD drive if it's compatible. Then there are no more restrictions on what your drive can read whatsoever. Region locks, DRM, etc all go away.
- toast0 3y agoUnless you're using the Blu-Ray player for something else, there's not really a need to connect them to the network. Maybe to ease firmware updates if you want those. Yes, some discs have something that does something with the network, but I can't imagine it's worthwhile (but maybe if I knew what it was, it could be?) One of my blu-ray players had a bunch of streaming clients, but they pretty much all expired. It might be nice if you could use a blu-ray player to play discs copied to your network, but I think DRM makes that a no, and anyway, 4k blu-ray can exceed 100mbps at peaks, and I don't think 1g ethernet has made it to 4k blu-ray players yet. But it has for some models of Apple TV, and some android TV products, including the well regarded Nvidia Shield.
- Kim_Bruning 3y agoOf course, for the ultimate in service, one can always visit that particular bay in sweden. Eye-patch, peg-leg, and parrot included free of charge! You get to download the movie. You get to keep the movie. You get to play the movie whenever you want. This was the service problem that streaming was supposed to solve of course. Unfortunately people have gotten a bit too greedy, which leaves us with the current situation.
- atleastoptimal 3y agoNooo you have to purchase 30 dollar country locked unskippable ads physical media that can only be played with special equipment and has expensive software keeping you from playing it in a convenient way.
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- mvdtnz 3y agoYeah no it's not 2003 anymore, in not going to own a device to slot a plastic disc into so I can watch a film.
- nonrepeating 3y agoI will. There’s no streaming service that guarantees any level of bitrate or picture quality, and if they can save a few cents by compressing the hell out of my movie, they will. If I get a well-mastered 4K disc, it’ll always be a quality experience on a decent player.
- dkarras 3y agoStill, I think your attention to picture quality is a niche case (like how "audiophiles" treat music). Above a certain quality that all streaming services pretty much match, I don't really care about compression. Honestly, I can't remember a time I noticed netflix's compression.
- hulitu 3y agoI tried to watch Star Trek DS9 on netflix. Video quality was absymal. Same for Valerian. Audio quality is even worse. To be able to underestand spoke english you need the volume at 60% (everything else working at 20-30%).
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- jszymborski 3y agoYou slot the plastic in once and then save a video file to you hard drive. Keep the plastic disc as a reliable back-up in case you lose the file or need more disk space.
- xnzakg 3y agoIf only the manufacturers of the plastic weren't trying to make it as difficult for you as possible to save the video file
- yakaccount4 3y agoI don't plan on buying any form of spinning media ever again in my life.
- latchkey 3y agoWait a few weeks and the digital version of the spinning media will magically appear thanks to the magic of an eye-patch, peg-leg, and parrot included service in a bay.
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- keyle 3y agoWhile I agree, there is nothing less satifying than backing up to a nvme external drive. I still have some spinning disks large hdd as a secondary backup and it's so much more satisfying. I could listen to them work all day! Probably rooted in my brain from childhood.
- godzillabrennus 3y agoI’ve been getting into blu ray again thanks to streaming costs. Amazing deals out there. You can also sometimes get 4k blu ray movies with a digital download code included for less than the digital version alone costs.
- darknavi 3y agoDMR free downloads? Have movie studios learned??
- yaomtc 3y agoThey didn't say DRM-free. No major movie studios have released DRM-free downloads of their films to my knowledge.
- effingwewt 3y agoAnd yet they are available, proving the studios will never learn. Capitalists always say the market will work it out, but all I see are entrenched companies who think customers are beholden to them, not the other way around. Piracy wouldn't be needed if it weren't for the studios shooting themselves in the foot.
- ripdog 3y agoNope. Draconian DRM is still standard.
- andrewstuart 3y agoAny movie I want to watch I buy on DVD. $3 on eBay, delivered within a few days. The stuff I want to watch is rarely available on the very few streaming services I subscribe to. As for piracy - ugh I really could not be bothered - what a waste of time finding and downloading and playing.
- evulhotdog 3y agoWith the *arr suite, you probably spend more time legally buying it on eBay than if you were to pirate it.
- keyle 3y agoIsn't DVD severely limited in terms of optimal quality? I'm pretty sure that any streaming service now will offer much better quality than DVD by default. Unless you use a projector or something to watch your movies, in which case the details are sufficiently lost to not observe any real difference?
- andrewstuart 3y agoI don’t care much about quality.
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- tedunangst 3y agoI'm sure Nolan has sufficient clout that he could negotiate a perpetual contract that the streaming service may not remove Oppenheimer from their catalog.
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- seanlane 3y agoIt's a pain to get set up initially, but the Automatic Ripping Machine[1] plus Jellyfin/Plex/etc[2] makes for a great combination. [1] https://github.com/automatic-ripping-machine/automatic-ripping-machine https://github.com/automatic-ripping-machine/automatic-rippi... [2] https://jellyfin.org/ https://jellyfin.org/
- _23sd 3y agoI own quite a few blu-rays, mostly movies where compression artifacts on streaming versions are very noticeable. I'd get them for more movies, but I don't have infinite shelf space, nor do I want to transform my living room walls into disc storage like some of my movie buff friends did in the DVD era. Filing cabinets could work, I suppose. But the point is, streaming a purchased or pirated copy is just simpler and better, and for 90% of movies the compression doesn't impact the experience. With all due respect to Nolan's work on the home release, I'm pretty sure Oppenheimer will be in the 90%. For the remaining 10% I'd love if iTunes and the other digital movie storefronts offered a "hifi" quality download with bitrate on par with blu-ray. I know Sony has something like that for their TVs, but I mean something really available cross platform through Movies Anywhere or similar. The difficulty studios have making money on digital movies really seems self-inflicted in some ways, plenty of people out there would be converted from buying blu-rays if the price and quality of downloads improved just a bit.
- bitshiftfaced 3y agoMy problem is that I know I'll probably only ever want to watch a given movie 'x' times. The cost to rent a movie is around $4, and the cost to buy a new movie is around $30. For me, it's almost always the case that 30/x > 4.
- anupamchugh 3y agoThis reminds me of the current state of blogs vs platforms. The issue with streaming platforms in various formats is that they rake in more money over their lifetime than the creators, simply by acquiring copyrights and hosting it.
- Kikawala 3y agoMaxCLL: 186 nit MaxFALL: 147 nit Very low light levels on this HDR Blu-ray.
- glimshe 3y agoSelling a full-quality, DRM-free, version would go a looong way in getting me to buy it.