> make me fit in your box Not really... > I would like to be able to travel the 1/3 of a mile without having conflicts with drivers when I'm trying to walk.

> make me fit in your box Not really... > I would like to be able to travel the 1/3 of a mile without having conflicts with drivers when I'm trying to walk. Why? Are you flipping off all the SUV drivers you see? > Also since you brought up "self reliance" almost any bicycle is going to be way more repairable than a motor vehicle, and _much_ more reliable, more capable off road etc. Literally children can repair and maintain them. Yes and you can still fit tent and stuff in your backpack or take a little trailer if you need. Way less tools needed. Travel lighter, less impact, access more places via skinnier tracks, it's cool. And you get a workout at the same time! I modify and maintain my own vehicle, so making it back from a 6000km trip on road and off road is very rewarding experience as it proves your abilities at (technical) driving as well as at spinning spanners and camping conveniences. Can cover more ground in a vehicle, visit more places, see more sights. Take a few more creature comforts. We only get so much time off work.