> With some modes (even FT8, not just stuff like WSPR), that's enough to reach around the globe. I semi-routinely spoke to Japan with SSB using improvised ante

> With some modes (even FT8, not just stuff like WSPR), that's enough to reach around the globe. I semi-routinely spoke to Japan with SSB using improvised antennas in the field with 10W. Elecraft KX3 + Buddipole Deluxe. Doubt I was very efficient, though I did try to get a couple good counterpoise wires going.