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I've been thinking recently (in part inspired by Penrose and other recursive universe theories): what if we can effect the trajectory of this current universe s

I've been thinking recently (in part inspired by Penrose and other recursive universe theories): what if we can effect the trajectory of this current universe such that the next universe that is created has definable properties. As a highly improbable example I use only to spur imagination, what if we could control the next big bang so precisely that a solar system exactly like ours would exist containing humans just like us. That would lead me to speculate that if we were looking for messages from the previous universe (in the style of the movie/book Contact) then we should look to the signature of the background radiation (CMB). Imagine a previous universe left us instructions there to help us achieve this, and perhaps therefore to achieve some objective that spans multiple universes (i.e. some objective too large to complete within the lifespan of a single universe). If that isn't a sci-fi book then it should be. Also maybe an interesting area for legit academic study (e.g. how to imprint instructions in the CMB to pass along to future universes).

civilitty 3y ago
> That would lead me to speculate that if we were looking for messages from the previous universe (in the style of the movie/book Contact) then we should look to the signature of the background radiation (CMB). That was the premise behind the Stargate Universe TV series. <spoilers> The Ancients detect a pattern in the cosmic background radiation that hints at an intelligence that existed before the beginning of time and send a fleet of automated ships with FTL to research it. Millions of years later, the US Air Force manages to send a team on a one way trip to the flagship and hijinks ensue.</spoilers>
- zoogeny 3y ago
  More proof that there are no new ideas under the sun! It is interesting to me that they chose the CMB as well. Although, looking at the Wikipedia synopsis it seems to speculate: "This discovery suggested the possibility of life before or immediately after the Big Bang, and Destiny was launched millions of years ago to study and gather data regarding this possibility." I wonder if they were going towards a purposeful communication plot as well, or even a plot suggesting a recurrence theme. I think of it sometimes like the ouroboros/eternal-return mystical philosophy. Like, the advanced life that we end up creating in this universe knows that the only way it can recreate itself is to recreate us, like we are just some kind of bootstrap for the universe's final form.
gmt2027 3y ago
GPT4 is good at sketching out stories like this. https://chat.openai.com/share/3143a927-a283-4abd-aae3-1f054248a430 https://chat.openai.com/share/3143a927-a283-4abd-aae3-1f0542...

civilitty 3y ago

> That would lead me to speculate that if we were looking for messages from the previous universe (in the style of the movie/book Contact) then we should look to the signature of the background radiation (CMB). That was the premise behind the Stargate Universe TV series. <spoilers> The Ancients detect a pattern in the cosmic background radiation that hints at an intelligence that existed before the beginning of time and send a fleet of automated ships with FTL to research it. Millions of years later, the US Air Force manages to send a team on a one way trip to the flagship and hijinks ensue.</spoilers>

zoogeny 3y ago
More proof that there are no new ideas under the sun! It is interesting to me that they chose the CMB as well. Although, looking at the Wikipedia synopsis it seems to speculate: "This discovery suggested the possibility of life before or immediately after the Big Bang, and Destiny was launched millions of years ago to study and gather data regarding this possibility." I wonder if they were going towards a purposeful communication plot as well, or even a plot suggesting a recurrence theme. I think of it sometimes like the ouroboros/eternal-return mystical philosophy. Like, the advanced life that we end up creating in this universe knows that the only way it can recreate itself is to recreate us, like we are just some kind of bootstrap for the universe's final form.

gmt2027 3y ago

GPT4 is good at sketching out stories like this. https://chat.openai.com/share/3143a927-a283-4abd-aae3-1f054248a430 https://chat.openai.com/share/3143a927-a283-4abd-aae3-1f0542...