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There are/were groups eating near-vegan diets for non-ideological reasons also. For example, the pre-modern Okinawan diet was mostly vegetables, some grains and
by dundarious 3y ago
There are/were groups eating near-vegan diets for non-ideological reasons also. For example, the pre-modern Okinawan diet was mostly vegetables, some grains and soy products, and very little (~2%) meat (including seafood). No dairy or oils, AFAIK. And those eating that way are/were a notably healthy population.
- InitialLastName 3y ago> some grains and soy products So, to the ancestor's point: Not just vegetables, but higher caloric-density grains.
- dundarious 3y ago> Can you sustain yourself eating only vegetables? Modern vegan diets work because we have heavily processed oils and grains, and a variety of supplements. I don't think a human could live long just munching vegetables that aren't cooked with oil. I think the "heavily processed oils and grains, and a variety of supplements" part was also important to their point, and that's what I was disputing and qualifying. And their assertion about "modern" vegan diets and my reference to "pre-modern" Okinawan diets is not really a contradiction either. You can easily eat the "pre-modern" Okinawan diet in Okinawa today (and in other places with grocery stores). I'm using pre-modern very loosely to indicate it is not the most common contemporary diet. Many dietary patterns across the world have Westernized/"modernized" (and as a result, many, though by no means all, have become less healthy).
- JCharante 3y agoWait but why? Okinawa has a Hawaii like climate, aka seems perfect for fishing year-round.