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And of course anyone can use your voice ti voice any opinion. Want Ghandi saying his words are backed with nuclear weapons? Want to portray Hitler as a nice lov

And of course anyone can use your voice ti voice any opinion. Want Ghandi saying his words are backed with nuclear weapons? Want to portray Hitler as a nice loving chap? And that’s before you get onto current politicians - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/10/faked-audio-sadiq-khan-armistice-day-shared-among-far-right https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/10/faked-audio...

Dioxide2119 3y ago
Hm. Gives a bit of truth to the Amish claim that having themselves be photographed steals a bit of their soul. Your voice is (was) unique to you. Recordings moved the needle to your voice (when saying new phrases) is unique to you. These voice cloning of the last few years means that your voice (as long as it is never recorded and remixed) is unique to you. A far more difficult proposition.
- giraffe_lady 3y ago
  I sincerely find this to fall into the proscriptions against necromancy present in most ancient belief systems. The dead should not be made to speak the words of the living. And we should not create for ourselves any illusions about the completeness or finality of death. It's not so much that it's a moral transgression as that it will undermine and corrupt our own understanding of what it means to be a living person.
  - xwdv 3y ago
    Turns out, it doesn't mean much to be a living person. Ideas are what matter to society, not the individual that spawns them. When you kill a revolutionaire, you are only killing a man.
    - giraffe_lady 3y ago
      Depends on your framing I guess. I live life as a person not as a society, and so being a person is quite meaningful to me. I don't know what it would be like to be an entity that experiences it otherwise and I'm glad for that.
xwdv 3y ago
This will be a fairly trivial problem to solve. Each spoken word can be cryptographically signed on some kind of distributed public ledger and unless the words originate from a verified origin you cannot assume something you hear was indeed spoken by the original source LLM. Only verified sentences coming from your LLM clone can be considered the actual you.

Dioxide2119 3y ago

Hm. Gives a bit of truth to the Amish claim that having themselves be photographed steals a bit of their soul. Your voice is (was) unique to you. Recordings moved the needle to your voice (when saying new phrases) is unique to you. These voice cloning of the last few years means that your voice (as long as it is never recorded and remixed) is unique to you. A far more difficult proposition.

giraffe_lady 3y ago
I sincerely find this to fall into the proscriptions against necromancy present in most ancient belief systems. The dead should not be made to speak the words of the living. And we should not create for ourselves any illusions about the completeness or finality of death. It's not so much that it's a moral transgression as that it will undermine and corrupt our own understanding of what it means to be a living person.
- xwdv 3y ago
  Turns out, it doesn't mean much to be a living person. Ideas are what matter to society, not the individual that spawns them. When you kill a revolutionaire, you are only killing a man.
  - giraffe_lady 3y ago
    Depends on your framing I guess. I live life as a person not as a society, and so being a person is quite meaningful to me. I don't know what it would be like to be an entity that experiences it otherwise and I'm glad for that.

xwdv 3y ago

This will be a fairly trivial problem to solve. Each spoken word can be cryptographically signed on some kind of distributed public ledger and unless the words originate from a verified origin you cannot assume something you hear was indeed spoken by the original source LLM. Only verified sentences coming from your LLM clone can be considered the actual you.