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Well put. At the end of the day, it's a personal choice—a choice that is up to you and you only. Not sure how we fell into this erroneous belief that we need te

Well put. At the end of the day, it's a personal choice—a choice that is up to you and you only. Not sure how we fell into this erroneous belief that we need tell others that they shouldn't or should be vaccinated.

enragedcacti 3y ago
> Not sure how we fell into this erroneous belief that we need tell others that they shouldn't or should be vaccinated. If you'd like the answer, the belief originally stems from watching hundreds of millions of people die of smallpox https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/timeline-of-vaccination-mandates https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/timeline-of-vaccination-m...
- kiltedpanda 3y ago
  The difference is that the smallpox vaccine is close to providing sterilizing immunity, unlike the Covid 'vaccines'. In fact there is a lot of data to suggest now that the number of vaccine doses a person has is correlated to an increased risk of catching covid (and therefore spreading it). Statistics agencies have to massage the raw data very significantly in their models to make it look like vaccinated individuals catch covid less often than unvaccinated people.
  - HideousKojima 3y ago
    If anything, vaccine is a misnomer for the Covid shots. Maybe prophylactic is more accurate?
    - ben_w 3y ago
      Vaccines can be prophylactic, or therapeutic (to fight a disease that has already occurred, which also includes some cancer treatments). Only some vaccines offer full sterilising immunity.
- moose44 3y ago
  Thank you for sharing.
UberFly 3y ago
I get your premise and it's true for a lot of stuff, but the equivalent is saying that following the rules of the road white driving is a personal choice. When choices start effecting those around you it's a different animal.
- moose44 3y ago
  No, I don't believe it is. Personal health choices and driving laws are two very different things. When one drives recklessly, we know the result, bodily harm to themselves and or others. When one takes a new vaccine with limited testing and emergency approval, we don't know the result(s), yet. By that logic, every set of choices one could have that affects others should be regulated or overseen? Moreover, that comparison is predicated on the belief that vaccines prevent transmission. There has been no sufficient data (to my knowledge) that backs up the claim of them doing so.
Ferret7446 3y ago
The problem is that it wasn't a personal choice for a lot of people who were effectively coerced.
- moose44 3y ago
  Agreed.

enragedcacti 3y ago

> Not sure how we fell into this erroneous belief that we need tell others that they shouldn't or should be vaccinated. If you'd like the answer, the belief originally stems from watching hundreds of millions of people die of smallpox https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/timeline-of-vaccination-mandates https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/timeline-of-vaccination-m...

kiltedpanda 3y ago
The difference is that the smallpox vaccine is close to providing sterilizing immunity, unlike the Covid 'vaccines'. In fact there is a lot of data to suggest now that the number of vaccine doses a person has is correlated to an increased risk of catching covid (and therefore spreading it). Statistics agencies have to massage the raw data very significantly in their models to make it look like vaccinated individuals catch covid less often than unvaccinated people.
- HideousKojima 3y ago
  If anything, vaccine is a misnomer for the Covid shots. Maybe prophylactic is more accurate?
  - ben_w 3y ago
    Vaccines can be prophylactic, or therapeutic (to fight a disease that has already occurred, which also includes some cancer treatments). Only some vaccines offer full sterilising immunity.
moose44 3y ago
Thank you for sharing.

UberFly 3y ago

I get your premise and it's true for a lot of stuff, but the equivalent is saying that following the rules of the road white driving is a personal choice. When choices start effecting those around you it's a different animal.

moose44 3y ago
No, I don't believe it is. Personal health choices and driving laws are two very different things. When one drives recklessly, we know the result, bodily harm to themselves and or others. When one takes a new vaccine with limited testing and emergency approval, we don't know the result(s), yet. By that logic, every set of choices one could have that affects others should be regulated or overseen? Moreover, that comparison is predicated on the belief that vaccines prevent transmission. There has been no sufficient data (to my knowledge) that backs up the claim of them doing so.

Ferret7446 3y ago

The problem is that it wasn't a personal choice for a lot of people who were effectively coerced.

moose44 3y ago
Agreed.