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It's going to take time, but momentum is seriously starting to build up now. Laptop market going to pick up with Snapdragon X and cloud providers are going to c

It's going to take time, but momentum is seriously starting to build up now. Laptop market going to pick up with Snapdragon X and cloud providers are going to continue with more powerful designs.

bacchusracine 3y ago
But will these run Linux, run AI stuff the way the Apple Silicon seems to be able to do? Because right now I'm looking to save up for a majorly spec'd Apple MacbookPro just to be able to do this stuff on a *nix operating system. I have no great love for Apple but the abilities of their chips and the vast software offerings are tempting this Linux guy in that direction. Something that Microsoft cannot seem to do any more. I used Windows from 3.x-WinME; NT3.51-WinXP, getting off before Vista. What I've seen since then has done nothing to tempt me back to their side. Since I unfortunately must deal with Windows 10 at work, it definitely reinforces my distaste for their systems.... So despite thinking OSX has been rendered ugly for the past ten years now, I'm still thinking heavily in that direction, even with the high costs. Snapdragon X sounds nice enough but I have zero expectations based on past behavior at those getting decent Linux support any time soon. And no one else seems to even be trying, that one Thinkpad aside.
- bee_rider 3y ago
  Microsoft has taken a couple swings at making ARM laptops (which, we should note, doesn’t appear to be what they are announcing here). I’d expect a future hypothetical Microsoft ARM laptop to be like a surface-RT; some Windows dropped on a third party ARM chip. Microsoft is a software company, after all. So it is more of a matter of, do they happen to have bought a chip that supports Linux (probably yes, because what hardware manufacturer wants to be dependent on one company for OS support?) and can you get past Secureboot (probably yes, after a couple years at least, when the jailbreak happens).

It's going to take time, but momentum is seriously starting to build up now. Laptop market going to pick up with Snapdragon X and cloud providers are going to continue with more powerful designs.

bacchusracine 3y ago

But will these run Linux, run AI stuff the way the Apple Silicon seems to be able to do? Because right now I'm looking to save up for a majorly spec'd Apple MacbookPro just to be able to do this stuff on a *nix operating system. I have no great love for Apple but the abilities of their chips and the vast software offerings are tempting this Linux guy in that direction. Something that Microsoft cannot seem to do any more. I used Windows from 3.x-WinME; NT3.51-WinXP, getting off before Vista. What I've seen since then has done nothing to tempt me back to their side. Since I unfortunately must deal with Windows 10 at work, it definitely reinforces my distaste for their systems.... So despite thinking OSX has been rendered ugly for the past ten years now, I'm still thinking heavily in that direction, even with the high costs. Snapdragon X sounds nice enough but I have zero expectations based on past behavior at those getting decent Linux support any time soon. And no one else seems to even be trying, that one Thinkpad aside.

bee_rider 3y ago
Microsoft has taken a couple swings at making ARM laptops (which, we should note, doesn’t appear to be what they are announcing here). I’d expect a future hypothetical Microsoft ARM laptop to be like a surface-RT; some Windows dropped on a third party ARM chip. Microsoft is a software company, after all. So it is more of a matter of, do they happen to have bought a chip that supports Linux (probably yes, because what hardware manufacturer wants to be dependent on one company for OS support?) and can you get past Secureboot (probably yes, after a couple years at least, when the jailbreak happens).