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One of the things people seem to underestimate about GPTs: Creators can upload unlimited "documents" to the GPTs. This is a bit of a trojan for OpenAI to collec

One of the things people seem to underestimate about GPTs: Creators can upload unlimited "documents" to the GPTs. This is a bit of a trojan for OpenAI to collect data that they wouldn't otherwise be able to. This alone will end up being a competitive moat that might not otherwise exist, and it's also a workaround in terms of liability, in terms of the use material they otherwise may not be able to use for their models.

fragmede 3y ago
Only for the web interface. For businesses accessing it via the API, there's a mode where OpenAI promises not to use uploaded information for training.
matt_holden 3y ago
Interesting point. OpenAI has said they don't train on files uploaded via the API (like the Assistant API), but unclear what the policy is for documents in GPTs. Either way, the signal they could get from understanding what KINDS of documents builders/users want to do better retrieval on is probably quite valuable. I also wonder how user file uploads will interact with copyright law and the new Copyright Shield from OpenAI. E.g. if a user uploads the full text of Harry Potter to a GPT, you could argue the model output is fair use but unclear how courts will interpret that. LLMs are already a sort of "copyright blender" that aggregate copyrighted inputs to produce (probably?) "fair use" outputs. With the foundation models, OpenAI can decide what inputs to include in training. But with custom GPTs, users can now create their own personal copyright blenders just by uploading a PDF :)
simonw 3y ago
I don't think it's unlimited - doesn't it cut out at 20?
- spdustin 3y ago
  10 for GPTs, 20 for Assistants
nlh 3y ago
I tried uploading A) greater than 10 docs (it started erroring out "unable to save draft") and B) large docs (300+ MB PDFs) and in both cases it failed. BTW - this is just the current iteration in the playground. I'm sure both of those issues will be fixed/expanded in the future.
- simonw 3y ago
  Worth noting that the GPTs feature in ChatGPT and the Assistants feature in the developer Playground are entirely separate things, which is really confusing because they have almost exactly the same set of features.

fragmede 3y ago

Only for the web interface. For businesses accessing it via the API, there's a mode where OpenAI promises not to use uploaded information for training.

matt_holden 3y ago

Interesting point. OpenAI has said they don't train on files uploaded via the API (like the Assistant API), but unclear what the policy is for documents in GPTs. Either way, the signal they could get from understanding what KINDS of documents builders/users want to do better retrieval on is probably quite valuable. I also wonder how user file uploads will interact with copyright law and the new Copyright Shield from OpenAI. E.g. if a user uploads the full text of Harry Potter to a GPT, you could argue the model output is fair use but unclear how courts will interpret that. LLMs are already a sort of "copyright blender" that aggregate copyrighted inputs to produce (probably?) "fair use" outputs. With the foundation models, OpenAI can decide what inputs to include in training. But with custom GPTs, users can now create their own personal copyright blenders just by uploading a PDF :)

simonw 3y ago

I don't think it's unlimited - doesn't it cut out at 20?

spdustin 3y ago
10 for GPTs, 20 for Assistants

nlh 3y ago

I tried uploading A) greater than 10 docs (it started erroring out "unable to save draft") and B) large docs (300+ MB PDFs) and in both cases it failed. BTW - this is just the current iteration in the playground. I'm sure both of those issues will be fixed/expanded in the future.

simonw 3y ago
Worth noting that the GPTs feature in ChatGPT and the Assistants feature in the developer Playground are entirely separate things, which is really confusing because they have almost exactly the same set of features.