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> And honestly, a classroom of students staring at screens talking to AI bots sounds like a dystopia to me. Would it be less dystopian if it were replaced with

> And honestly, a classroom of students staring at screens talking to AI bots sounds like a dystopia to me. Would it be less dystopian if it were replaced with a hologram of a historical figure / scientist speaking as though an actual primary source on the matter but with the same LLM behind it?

sebastiennight 3y ago
Same-same. The problem with the ChatGPT-tutor future is not "having to read". Also, I believe that having tens of thousands of teachers with their unions and quirks has its issues, but is a much more resilient system at the nation level than a centralized tutor system. (The centralized tutor is too easy to game, bias, get seeded with native ads, etc.)
- jncfhnb 3y ago
  As someone who learned by listening to teachers and otherwise skipping all the readings I find that not compelling
  - sebastiennight 3y ago
    Yeah, I'm the exact opposite of you there. I would just never listen to whatever happened in class. My strategy was to be best friends with the top-of-the-class student, and spend the classes copying her notes from the previous class. Listening was so boring and slow and sleep-inducing. But my point is that if the plan is: > We will sit your kids to chat with a black-box AI bot for the duration of their school term, and the bot will teach them about life Then the problem is not "why don't we give them Airpods to listen to the black-box AI chatbot, instead of reading what the black-box AI chatbot is typing"
keiferski 3y ago
Not really, because I don't think kids are going to find a piece of software to be a compelling teacher. Having a physical presence is important for physical beings like humans. My guess is, they'd just ignore or make fun of a hologram. The "appeal" of a historical figure doing the teaching is also not really compelling to anyone that isn't already interested in history.
- xnx 3y ago
  Your teachers must have been much better than mine. A well produced YouTube video is better than any in-person school lecture I've received. Combine that with 1-on-1 next-generation LLM fine-tuned to be a helpful tutor and it will make the best possible education today, readily accessible to a lot more kids.
jprete 3y ago
I get the idea, but the dystopian part is the students being continually isolated in their educational time with their only contact being an impersonal computer program (or something that fakes being personal, but is not actually free to be personal). The computer dressing up in human form doesn't really change it.

sebastiennight 3y ago

Same-same. The problem with the ChatGPT-tutor future is not "having to read". Also, I believe that having tens of thousands of teachers with their unions and quirks has its issues, but is a much more resilient system at the nation level than a centralized tutor system. (The centralized tutor is too easy to game, bias, get seeded with native ads, etc.)

jncfhnb 3y ago
As someone who learned by listening to teachers and otherwise skipping all the readings I find that not compelling
- sebastiennight 3y ago
  Yeah, I'm the exact opposite of you there. I would just never listen to whatever happened in class. My strategy was to be best friends with the top-of-the-class student, and spend the classes copying her notes from the previous class. Listening was so boring and slow and sleep-inducing. But my point is that if the plan is: > We will sit your kids to chat with a black-box AI bot for the duration of their school term, and the bot will teach them about life Then the problem is not "why don't we give them Airpods to listen to the black-box AI chatbot, instead of reading what the black-box AI chatbot is typing"

keiferski 3y ago

Not really, because I don't think kids are going to find a piece of software to be a compelling teacher. Having a physical presence is important for physical beings like humans. My guess is, they'd just ignore or make fun of a hologram. The "appeal" of a historical figure doing the teaching is also not really compelling to anyone that isn't already interested in history.

xnx 3y ago
Your teachers must have been much better than mine. A well produced YouTube video is better than any in-person school lecture I've received. Combine that with 1-on-1 next-generation LLM fine-tuned to be a helpful tutor and it will make the best possible education today, readily accessible to a lot more kids.

jprete 3y ago

I get the idea, but the dystopian part is the students being continually isolated in their educational time with their only contact being an impersonal computer program (or something that fakes being personal, but is not actually free to be personal). The computer dressing up in human form doesn't really change it.