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Samsung is light years ahead of everyone else in the Android phone space, and the only manufacturer that can compete with iPhone. It's crazy that it's true, giv

Samsung is light years ahead of everyone else in the Android phone space, and the only manufacturer that can compete with iPhone. It's crazy that it's true, given the opportunity for Google themselves to try to compete, but they don't for whatever reason.

dontblink 3y ago
I think it's in part that they don't want to seem to compete with Samsung so they have to define themselves as mid tier.
encom 3y ago
>Samsung is light years ahead In what way? I'm someone who hasn't bought a new phone since 2016, and there are zero occurrences in daily use where I feel it's too slow. I can't imagine being one or two generations behind the bleeding edge in CPU speed to be a hindrance. What are people doing on their phones that need ultimate speed? Only thing bothering me now is its screen size, but not enough to replace it. Unfortunately Apple wants me to throw a functioning device into a landfill to make more money, so they cut off software updates.
- _ea1k 3y ago
  Yeah, seriously... a little more speed and 7b quantized LLMs would be almost usable. I guess that could be nice? :) But in practice, performance is mostly being wasted on phones right now.
_ea1k 3y ago
I don't think this is totally true, tbh. The Pixel 8 Pro holds up really well against the S23 Ultra IMO. The camera generally rates higher in blind comparison tests. Performance is a little lower, but tbh... even my old Pixel 5 was fast enough. Marginal differences in performance don't seem that important to me now in a phone. Battery life might be lower, but I get the feeling that real world performance is really close.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >Battery life might be lower, but I get the feeling that real world performance is really close. According to users of both, real life battery life of the Pixel 8 is much lower than the benchmarks would suggest, because of the inferior SoC and modem which drains the battery much faster then the Qualcomm powered S23, when you use your phone a lot on data. The problem is most battery benchmarks are pretty meaningless as they're always done indoor on WiFi which is a lot easier on the battery than when using the modem for data, so they don't reflect the real world use when you're out and about throughout the day roaming between cell towers of varying signal strength. My biggest torture scenario for a phone's battery is web browsing on the train or in our office building. It literally nukes the battery compared to wifi.
  - _ea1k 3y ago
    I've heard reports of very high drain on cellular, but tbh it isn't something that I've noticed in real world usage. Maybe some of that is the difference between the P8 and P8Pro. I'd guess high modem usage isn't as big of an impact on the higher battery P8Pro.
m4rtink 3y ago
Also if you want a well supported precuse stylus on a phone or tablet, there is not really a choice as far as I can tell.

dontblink 3y ago

I think it's in part that they don't want to seem to compete with Samsung so they have to define themselves as mid tier.

encom 3y ago

>Samsung is light years ahead In what way? I'm someone who hasn't bought a new phone since 2016, and there are zero occurrences in daily use where I feel it's too slow. I can't imagine being one or two generations behind the bleeding edge in CPU speed to be a hindrance. What are people doing on their phones that need ultimate speed? Only thing bothering me now is its screen size, but not enough to replace it. Unfortunately Apple wants me to throw a functioning device into a landfill to make more money, so they cut off software updates.

_ea1k 3y ago
Yeah, seriously... a little more speed and 7b quantized LLMs would be almost usable. I guess that could be nice? :) But in practice, performance is mostly being wasted on phones right now.

_ea1k 3y ago

I don't think this is totally true, tbh. The Pixel 8 Pro holds up really well against the S23 Ultra IMO. The camera generally rates higher in blind comparison tests. Performance is a little lower, but tbh... even my old Pixel 5 was fast enough. Marginal differences in performance don't seem that important to me now in a phone. Battery life might be lower, but I get the feeling that real world performance is really close.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>Battery life might be lower, but I get the feeling that real world performance is really close. According to users of both, real life battery life of the Pixel 8 is much lower than the benchmarks would suggest, because of the inferior SoC and modem which drains the battery much faster then the Qualcomm powered S23, when you use your phone a lot on data. The problem is most battery benchmarks are pretty meaningless as they're always done indoor on WiFi which is a lot easier on the battery than when using the modem for data, so they don't reflect the real world use when you're out and about throughout the day roaming between cell towers of varying signal strength. My biggest torture scenario for a phone's battery is web browsing on the train or in our office building. It literally nukes the battery compared to wifi.
- _ea1k 3y ago
  I've heard reports of very high drain on cellular, but tbh it isn't something that I've noticed in real world usage. Maybe some of that is the difference between the P8 and P8Pro. I'd guess high modem usage isn't as big of an impact on the higher battery P8Pro.

m4rtink 3y ago

Also if you want a well supported precuse stylus on a phone or tablet, there is not really a choice as far as I can tell.