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Isnt this ad hominem itself a “culture war position”?
by robg 3y ago
Isnt this ad hominem itself a “culture war position”?
- giraffe_lady 3y agoWhat? No. Y'all use this word way too much get a grip.
- Floegipoky 3y agoNo, this is class consciousness, and by conflating these things you've strengthened their point.
- Floegipoky 3y agoI'll assume that this was downvoted because the "culture war" dividing America is one of the preeminent expressions of class warfare in this country, and therefore acknowledging class _is_ inherently engaging in the "culture war". Which, fair point.
- Levitz 3y agoI think that's naive. Class consciousness is being aware that those with wealth are the ones who set the orthodoxy to begin with. Paul Graham writing a blogspot is irrelevant, he is barely exercising his position while doing so. Look for corporate meddling into politics and culture war if you want a smokescreen. The current culture wars being identity-based isn't an accident, for example, there won't be a worker's right month same as there won't be a worker's right parade, no corporation is putting money into that.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago> there won't be a worker's right month same as there won't be a worker's right parade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Chavez_Day https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Chavez_Day https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Cesar+Chavez+Day+parade&atb=v325-1&iax=images&ia=images https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Cesar+Chavez+Day+parade&atb...
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- lukas099 3y agoThere are Labor Day parades
- woodruffw 3y agoI don’t think that the underlying observation (wealthy, powerful people stand to benefit disproportionately from confusion about how society allocates privilege) is ad hominem. Unless being characterized accurately as wealthy and powerful is an insult. It’s a culture war position in the sense that it’s a response to one.
- wolvesechoes 3y agoIt is ad hominem. Thing is, ad hominem is often a valid way of arguing, as long as a property or trait in question is relevant to the issue. Yet, as many other things in the internet discussion, it ended up as an easy way to label and disregard arguments of others without putting any effort into discussion.