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There's a bunch of things on there that haven't had a release in over 25 years. Are they still doing current builds on SCO, Xenix, OS/2 and NextStep? I've run

There's a bunch of things on there that haven't had a release in over 25 years. Are they still doing current builds on SCO, Xenix, OS/2 and NextStep? I've run these, I know some curl exists on them, but in my experience that curl is always like at least 15 years old. If you say you don't want to break some support matrix and the last build on a bunch of that matrix was well over a decade ago, how do you know it's not broken?

gattilorenz 3y ago
That 25 seems a generous understatement. I don’t think you can build for Xenix, the most modern GCC that can target it is 2.7 and that’s already ancient, not to mention the network code. It’s probably “at some point it was running on those systems”.
- kristopolous 3y ago
  Right. I'm not speaking poorly on the curl project, (I'm actually one of their financial sponsors), I'd just want to see a bit more evidence of this claim. I've got an OpenVMS/Alpha, Next/68k and HPUX/PARISC machine in my closet. If we want to get modern software on there, let's roll, I'll fire them up.
  - gattilorenz 3y ago
    I’m willing to fix that. And by “that”, I mean the fact that you have a Next in your closet :)
    - kristopolous 3y ago
      I got it for $25 about 25 years ago It's a pretty cool machine but I assure you it's extremely useless these days. The TIFF format it uses, for instance, no longer supported by imagemagick. It doesn't support modern DNS resolution and if you want NFS you'll need a legacy v3 server. The Ethernet is a blistering 10baseT and the SCSI drive doesn't crack 300MB. The ssh server exists but modern clients no longer support it's archaic protocol. You've got perl and zsh, that's nice. There's also some antique Apache for it so you can use WebDAV and you can get it to play mp3s in real time if they're mono channel and under 32khz (yes, that's what I meant)
      - gattilorenz 3y ago
        To be honest, that’s par for the course for a machine of that era. That doesn’t mean you cannot waste some time having fun with it: I’ve ported some software to Xenix (including Doom, sort-of-working: https://github.com/gattilorenz/Xenix-doom https://github.com/gattilorenz/Xenix-doom), and while completely useless it’s intellectually stimulating. But geez, 25$… that’s a nice thrift find!
rob74 3y ago
Wow! Compared to that, AmigaOS is still alive and kicking (latest release in 2021)
- coldacid 3y ago
  March 2023, actually -- 3.2.2.
2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
If Xenix or OS/2 haven't changed then why would an old build of Curl suddenly break on them?
- kristopolous 3y ago
  It wouldn't. The implication from the article is newer versions also work on it. And I say not without a lot of work. They're not waiting on their, say, Blackberry 10 build to pass the test suite before tagging a release.
hnlmorg 3y ago
SkyOS is another good example of that too. At this point in time it’s probably safer to remove SkyOS then assume anyone is actually running it.

gattilorenz 3y ago

That 25 seems a generous understatement. I don’t think you can build for Xenix, the most modern GCC that can target it is 2.7 and that’s already ancient, not to mention the network code. It’s probably “at some point it was running on those systems”.

kristopolous 3y ago
Right. I'm not speaking poorly on the curl project, (I'm actually one of their financial sponsors), I'd just want to see a bit more evidence of this claim. I've got an OpenVMS/Alpha, Next/68k and HPUX/PARISC machine in my closet. If we want to get modern software on there, let's roll, I'll fire them up.
- gattilorenz 3y ago
  I’m willing to fix that. And by “that”, I mean the fact that you have a Next in your closet :)
  - kristopolous 3y ago
    I got it for $25 about 25 years ago It's a pretty cool machine but I assure you it's extremely useless these days. The TIFF format it uses, for instance, no longer supported by imagemagick. It doesn't support modern DNS resolution and if you want NFS you'll need a legacy v3 server. The Ethernet is a blistering 10baseT and the SCSI drive doesn't crack 300MB. The ssh server exists but modern clients no longer support it's archaic protocol. You've got perl and zsh, that's nice. There's also some antique Apache for it so you can use WebDAV and you can get it to play mp3s in real time if they're mono channel and under 32khz (yes, that's what I meant)
    - gattilorenz 3y ago
      To be honest, that’s par for the course for a machine of that era. That doesn’t mean you cannot waste some time having fun with it: I’ve ported some software to Xenix (including Doom, sort-of-working: https://github.com/gattilorenz/Xenix-doom https://github.com/gattilorenz/Xenix-doom), and while completely useless it’s intellectually stimulating. But geez, 25$… that’s a nice thrift find!

rob74 3y ago

Wow! Compared to that, AmigaOS is still alive and kicking (latest release in 2021)

coldacid 3y ago
March 2023, actually -- 3.2.2.

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago

If Xenix or OS/2 haven't changed then why would an old build of Curl suddenly break on them?

kristopolous 3y ago
It wouldn't. The implication from the article is newer versions also work on it. And I say not without a lot of work. They're not waiting on their, say, Blackberry 10 build to pass the test suite before tagging a release.

hnlmorg 3y ago

SkyOS is another good example of that too. At this point in time it’s probably safer to remove SkyOS then assume anyone is actually running it.