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Most fringe languages are vanity projects that address a limited number of use-cases. There are always language specific features that may reduce a given probl

Most fringe languages are vanity projects that address a limited number of use-cases. There are always language specific features that may reduce a given problems implementation complexity, but it often depends how much time people are willing to commit to "reinventing the wheel". If you find yourself struggling with support scaffolding issues instead of the core challenge, than chances are you are using the wrong tool. https://m.xkcd.com/927/ https://m.xkcd.com/927/ I am not suggesting Erlang/Elixir, Lisp and Julia are perfect... but at least one is not trying to build a castle out of grains of sand, The only groups I see freeing themselves of C/C++ library inertia is the Go and Julia communities to a lesser extent. Have a wonderful day, =)

matheusmoreira 3y ago
It's a vanity project until it isn't. I don't know what makes a language succeed but it's clearly possible. I've seen quite a few languages rise from small to widely used. Zig is a prominent example but there are others.
- Joel_Mckay 3y ago
  I often ponder if it is a function of the breadth of language use-cases within a problem domain, and or developer effort minimization. C/C++ tend to be CPU bound languages that are tightly coupled to the Von Neumann architectures. Anything that is not directly isomorphic tends to not survive very long unless its for a VM, and supports wrapper libraries. Best of luck, =)
- kaba0 3y ago
  I wouldn’t call Zig widely used just yet. It is definitely not in the same camp as hobby languages, but it is still incredibly small. Nonetheless, it is a very welcome addition to the low-level landscape with some cool ideas.
  - matheusmoreira 3y ago
    I can only hope my own language will become "incredibly small" like that one day. :) Even if a language doesn't take off, its ideas can make a difference and influence future designs. The creator of Zig certainly made an impression on me with this talk: https://youtube.com/watch?t=120&v=Gv2I7qTux7g https://youtube.com/watch?t=120&v=Gv2I7qTux7g Even if Zig hadn't been successful, the ideas it represents would've enriched the world. Gives me hope I'll be able to make something out of my own ideas too one day.
jstimpfle 3y ago
Good god, all is well but can we please all stop posting this xkcd :p
- Joel_Mckay 3y ago
  So, you are proposing a new standard of satire. =)

matheusmoreira 3y ago

It's a vanity project until it isn't. I don't know what makes a language succeed but it's clearly possible. I've seen quite a few languages rise from small to widely used. Zig is a prominent example but there are others.

Joel_Mckay 3y ago
I often ponder if it is a function of the breadth of language use-cases within a problem domain, and or developer effort minimization. C/C++ tend to be CPU bound languages that are tightly coupled to the Von Neumann architectures. Anything that is not directly isomorphic tends to not survive very long unless its for a VM, and supports wrapper libraries. Best of luck, =)
kaba0 3y ago
I wouldn’t call Zig widely used just yet. It is definitely not in the same camp as hobby languages, but it is still incredibly small. Nonetheless, it is a very welcome addition to the low-level landscape with some cool ideas.
- matheusmoreira 3y ago
  I can only hope my own language will become "incredibly small" like that one day. :) Even if a language doesn't take off, its ideas can make a difference and influence future designs. The creator of Zig certainly made an impression on me with this talk: https://youtube.com/watch?t=120&v=Gv2I7qTux7g https://youtube.com/watch?t=120&v=Gv2I7qTux7g Even if Zig hadn't been successful, the ideas it represents would've enriched the world. Gives me hope I'll be able to make something out of my own ideas too one day.

jstimpfle 3y ago

Good god, all is well but can we please all stop posting this xkcd :p

Joel_Mckay 3y ago
So, you are proposing a new standard of satire. =)