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> He was either insane or lying or telling the truth. Or wrong. People can say untrue things without being insane or lying. Sometimes, we're just mistaken.

robertlagrant 3y ago
I don't think that counts when you're claiming to be God.
- majormajor 3y ago
  Did he request anyone kill anyone else on behalf of his claimed godliness? Donate their fortunes to him? Sleep with him? Even that lunacy seems to have avoided compromising the moral lessons, even assuming we take the written accounts literally.
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    Teaching people it's okay to claim you're a god sounds like a mad or bad idea if you're not one.
- tasty_freeze 3y ago
  Sure it does. There are many people who have claimed to be God. In nearly every case they are deemed as crazy. There was even the famous case where three different men, each sincerely believing they were the return of Christ, were put together by a psychologist who had a hunch that it might snap them out of their delusions. It didn't. https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/11/15/three-christs/ https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/11/15/three-christs/
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    That appears to be as part of Lewis' trilemma, though.
bryanrasmussen 3y ago
or metaphorical.
throw0101b 3y ago
>> He was either insane or lying or telling the truth. > Or wrong. Buddy was literally crucified for claiming to be God: > 61 Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?” > 62 “I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.” > 63 The high priest tore his clothes. “Why do we need any more witnesses?” he asked. 64 “You have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?” * https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2014&version=NIV https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2014&versi... > 6 But Pilate answered, “You take him and crucify him. As for me, I find no basis for a charge against him.” > 7 The Jewish leaders insisted, “We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God.” * https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2019&version=NIV https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2019&versi... * https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/61174/why-was-jesus-condemned-for-blasphemy-by-the-jews https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/61174/why-w... Heck of "LOL! Just kidding guys! It was just a prank!" :)
- meepmorp 3y ago
  Maybe you could expand a bit on how this relates to the parent comment, because it's not obvious to me.

robertlagrant 3y ago

I don't think that counts when you're claiming to be God.

majormajor 3y ago
Did he request anyone kill anyone else on behalf of his claimed godliness? Donate their fortunes to him? Sleep with him? Even that lunacy seems to have avoided compromising the moral lessons, even assuming we take the written accounts literally.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  Teaching people it's okay to claim you're a god sounds like a mad or bad idea if you're not one.
tasty_freeze 3y ago
Sure it does. There are many people who have claimed to be God. In nearly every case they are deemed as crazy. There was even the famous case where three different men, each sincerely believing they were the return of Christ, were put together by a psychologist who had a hunch that it might snap them out of their delusions. It didn't. https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/11/15/three-christs/ https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/11/15/three-christs/
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  That appears to be as part of Lewis' trilemma, though.

bryanrasmussen 3y ago

or metaphorical.

throw0101b 3y ago

>> He was either insane or lying or telling the truth. > Or wrong. Buddy was literally crucified for claiming to be God: > 61 Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?” > 62 “I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.” > 63 The high priest tore his clothes. “Why do we need any more witnesses?” he asked. 64 “You have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?” * https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2014&version=NIV https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2014&versi... > 6 But Pilate answered, “You take him and crucify him. As for me, I find no basis for a charge against him.” > 7 The Jewish leaders insisted, “We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God.” * https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2019&version=NIV https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2019&versi... * https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/61174/why-was-jesus-condemned-for-blasphemy-by-the-jews https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/61174/why-w... Heck of "LOL! Just kidding guys! It was just a prank!" :)

meepmorp 3y ago
Maybe you could expand a bit on how this relates to the parent comment, because it's not obvious to me.