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Sounds ridiculous. How is that even road legal ?!?

FireBeyond 3y ago
Teslas occasionally need to reboot / hard reset their software too, when driving no less, and during that period all that information, and most of the controls, are unavailable (like windshield wipers, etc.)
- Terr_ 3y ago
  > Teslas occasionally need to reboot / hard reset their software too, when driving no less Move over, Microsoft, I think I've found an update policy I hate even more...
  - yreg 3y ago
    It's not related to update policy, it happens when the infotainment crashes.
  - fransje26 3y ago
    You never had Windows force-reboot your system during an unrequested background update? Happened twice to me.
    - Terr_ 3y ago
      I've lost work to it because it killed my running VirtualBox sessions.
      - fransje26 3y ago
        I feel you. I've had my machine blocked for 5 hours as it was pushing an update down my throat. Luckily it gave me a 2 minute warning before the initial reboot so that I could close everything down. As that was during a client emergency, I had a very happy client that day.
- brewdad 3y ago
  As someone who lives in a place where it rains almost every day for 9 months of the year, this reinforces my decision to never buy a Tesla. Does this kill the headlights too?
  - xenadu02 3y ago
    FWIW in two years of ownership we have never seen the touchscreen reboot while driving.
    - yreg 3y ago
      I had it happen two times this year, but the original comment is wrong, you can use the wipers (and also the headlights) while the touch screen is rebooting.
- serf 3y ago
  some ex-Boeing engineer probably came up with that 'fix'.[0] [0]: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/faa-orders-787-safety-fix-reboot-power-once-in-a-while/ https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/faa-o...
- yreg 3y ago
  >and most of the controls, are unavailable All the controls related to driving are available. You can use turn signals, wipers, change lights, honk, shift gears, etc. But you are correct that you don't see your speed during the reboot.
  - ClassyJacket 3y ago
    That's not true. You cannot shift gears in the Model X, S, or 3 without the touchscreen - the only way to change into or out of park, drive, or reverse is to swipe on the touchscreen. Only the Model Y has a stalk and it is being removed in the next version. Also even on older Teslas lights are controlled exclusively via touchscreen.
    - mrsirduke 3y ago
      There are captive buttons to change gears/direction in the X (2023) where the hazards are, as outlined in the docs: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modelx/en_us/GUID-E9B387D7-AFEF-4AAF-8685-4FE71E09287D.html#CONCEPT_ZFM_NGY_N4B https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modelx/en_us/GUID-E9B387D...
    - yreg 3y ago
      I don't know what to tell you, you are wrong. I drive a Tesla, I have specifically checked all of what I mentioned when I had this (in my opinion highly problematic) issue happen to me. Have you actually tried it? Even the new stalkless cars have gear selectors.
- iJohnDoe 3y ago
  There are some comments from Tesla developers in previous posts about what a shitshow the code is that runs Tesla cars and what the OTA process is.

Teslas occasionally need to reboot / hard reset their software too, when driving no less, and during that period all that information, and most of the controls, are unavailable (like windshield wipers, etc.)

Terr_ 3y ago
> Teslas occasionally need to reboot / hard reset their software too, when driving no less Move over, Microsoft, I think I've found an update policy I hate even more...
- yreg 3y ago
  It's not related to update policy, it happens when the infotainment crashes.
- fransje26 3y ago
  You never had Windows force-reboot your system during an unrequested background update? Happened twice to me.
  - Terr_ 3y ago
    I've lost work to it because it killed my running VirtualBox sessions.
    - fransje26 3y ago
      I feel you. I've had my machine blocked for 5 hours as it was pushing an update down my throat. Luckily it gave me a 2 minute warning before the initial reboot so that I could close everything down. As that was during a client emergency, I had a very happy client that day.
brewdad 3y ago
As someone who lives in a place where it rains almost every day for 9 months of the year, this reinforces my decision to never buy a Tesla. Does this kill the headlights too?
- xenadu02 3y ago
  FWIW in two years of ownership we have never seen the touchscreen reboot while driving.
  - yreg 3y ago
    I had it happen two times this year, but the original comment is wrong, you can use the wipers (and also the headlights) while the touch screen is rebooting.
serf 3y ago
some ex-Boeing engineer probably came up with that 'fix'.[0] [0]: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/faa-orders-787-safety-fix-reboot-power-once-in-a-while/ https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/faa-o...
yreg 3y ago
>and most of the controls, are unavailable All the controls related to driving are available. You can use turn signals, wipers, change lights, honk, shift gears, etc. But you are correct that you don't see your speed during the reboot.
- ClassyJacket 3y ago
  That's not true. You cannot shift gears in the Model X, S, or 3 without the touchscreen - the only way to change into or out of park, drive, or reverse is to swipe on the touchscreen. Only the Model Y has a stalk and it is being removed in the next version. Also even on older Teslas lights are controlled exclusively via touchscreen.
  - mrsirduke 3y ago
    There are captive buttons to change gears/direction in the X (2023) where the hazards are, as outlined in the docs: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modelx/en_us/GUID-E9B387D7-AFEF-4AAF-8685-4FE71E09287D.html#CONCEPT_ZFM_NGY_N4B https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modelx/en_us/GUID-E9B387D...
  - yreg 3y ago
    I don't know what to tell you, you are wrong. I drive a Tesla, I have specifically checked all of what I mentioned when I had this (in my opinion highly problematic) issue happen to me. Have you actually tried it? Even the new stalkless cars have gear selectors.
iJohnDoe 3y ago
There are some comments from Tesla developers in previous posts about what a shitshow the code is that runs Tesla cars and what the OTA process is.