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That is a very common type of accident that occurs even when the driver is going below the speed limit and is paying full attention. Do you have a source for t

That is a very common type of accident that occurs even when the driver is going below the speed limit and is paying full attention. Do you have a source for this being a common source of pedestrian accidents? Contrary to the popular narrative, not everyone who drives a car does so drunk, high No one is claiming that. and/or too fast Ok, I'll make this claim, people routinely exceed speed limits, whether on 25mph residential streets or 65mph highways. Blaming every accident on the driver by default and expecting jail time for anything with bad consequences is pretty toxic The driver is in the 3000 lb vehicle, he should shoulder more responsibility. If drivers thought they'd face serious consequences if they hit a pedestrian, they'd manage to actually look for pedestrians instead of just giving a token glance. Try to cross on a walk signal in any busy town or city and you'll see how few drivers pay attention to pedestrians, I've actually been in the crosswalk and had to stop for a right-on-red turning car who didn't manage to see a person in the street in broad daylight.

pclmulqdq 3y ago
Here you go: http://www.pedbikesafe.org/pedsafe/guide_statistics.cfm http://www.pedbikesafe.org/pedsafe/guide_statistics.cfm > Roughly 68 percent of crashes resulting in a pedestrian fatality occurred at non-intersections in 2010 Also half of these pedestrian-driver crashes involve someone (pedestrian or driver) being inebriated, but they certainly do occur when the driver is paying full attention. > I've actually been in the crosswalk and had to stop for a right-on-red turning car who didn't manage to see a person in the street in broad daylight. I've been in the same position as you here, but I've had a lot more drivers wait for me. I've also seen drivers (particularly in Florida) acknowledge my existence by making eye contact before rudely turning directly in front of me. This particular piece of American car culture drives me crazy, too, but is not an indication of broad negligence or disregard for the lives of others.
- Johnny555 3y ago
  I'm not sure how that backs up your statement that it's very common for a pedestrian to run across the street in front of a car that not only saw them and started braking appropriately, but was also going below the speed limit.
  - pclmulqdq 3y ago
    I said that it was common, and even happens when people are driving well. I think you may have misunderstood me.

pclmulqdq 3y ago

Here you go: http://www.pedbikesafe.org/pedsafe/guide_statistics.cfm http://www.pedbikesafe.org/pedsafe/guide_statistics.cfm > Roughly 68 percent of crashes resulting in a pedestrian fatality occurred at non-intersections in 2010 Also half of these pedestrian-driver crashes involve someone (pedestrian or driver) being inebriated, but they certainly do occur when the driver is paying full attention. > I've actually been in the crosswalk and had to stop for a right-on-red turning car who didn't manage to see a person in the street in broad daylight. I've been in the same position as you here, but I've had a lot more drivers wait for me. I've also seen drivers (particularly in Florida) acknowledge my existence by making eye contact before rudely turning directly in front of me. This particular piece of American car culture drives me crazy, too, but is not an indication of broad negligence or disregard for the lives of others.

Johnny555 3y ago
I'm not sure how that backs up your statement that it's very common for a pedestrian to run across the street in front of a car that not only saw them and started braking appropriately, but was also going below the speed limit.
- pclmulqdq 3y ago
  I said that it was common, and even happens when people are driving well. I think you may have misunderstood me.