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> The car industry has been very very successful with equating driving with freedom though which makes this a hard conversation to have with people. It can't p

> The car industry has been very very successful with equating driving with freedom though which makes this a hard conversation to have with people. It can't possibly be a "hard conversation to have" because people disagree with you, huh? It has to be that the car companies brainwashed them? I see this everywhere on social media. "I have an opinion, my opinion is the right one, and if you disagree with me, you didn't actually come to an independent conclusion, you were just brainwashed or had an emotional response."

NegativeLatency 3y ago
Nobody makes ads that make walking look cool or get you to where you’re going in style, because there’s nothing to sell you in that case. They do make ads of cars taking shortcuts, going to nature, driving really fast, looking really cool etc (closed course, professional driver, do not attempt) Demand as seen by prices and lack of affordability in walkable areas in the US is sufficient evidence that it’s an underserved market. BTW You sorta proved my point at how convinced people are, and how it's such a hard conversation to have.
gosub100 3y ago
> if you disagree with me, you didn't actually come to an independent conclusion it goes in line with taking rights and responsibilities away from the individual. You want to go somewhere? take the government's approved method of getting there. You dont like smelling urine or seeing trash or getting accosted/threatened by homeless at the train station? too bad, should have voted for my guy, he's 6 votes away from funding the next "program" to help fix it. Sorry we can't fund police, they don't respond to property crimes any more. we need to raise taxes again to fund the next $CHILDREN program, get with the times. and on and on.
- Mawr 3y ago
  You're right, it's about freedom. The freedom of not having to use a car to get literally anywhere.

NegativeLatency 3y ago

Nobody makes ads that make walking look cool or get you to where you’re going in style, because there’s nothing to sell you in that case. They do make ads of cars taking shortcuts, going to nature, driving really fast, looking really cool etc (closed course, professional driver, do not attempt) Demand as seen by prices and lack of affordability in walkable areas in the US is sufficient evidence that it’s an underserved market. BTW You sorta proved my point at how convinced people are, and how it's such a hard conversation to have.

gosub100 3y ago

> if you disagree with me, you didn't actually come to an independent conclusion it goes in line with taking rights and responsibilities away from the individual. You want to go somewhere? take the government's approved method of getting there. You dont like smelling urine or seeing trash or getting accosted/threatened by homeless at the train station? too bad, should have voted for my guy, he's 6 votes away from funding the next "program" to help fix it. Sorry we can't fund police, they don't respond to property crimes any more. we need to raise taxes again to fund the next $CHILDREN program, get with the times. and on and on.

Mawr 3y ago
You're right, it's about freedom. The freedom of not having to use a car to get literally anywhere.