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Spotify Play Button

35 points by stuartmemo 14y ago

sylvinus 14y ago
I wonder how they plan to recoup royalty losses from this? Is this just a marketing investment?
- Ineffable 14y ago
  It's simply a remote control for the spotify app. They're repaying royalties using subscription payers and ad plays.
skrebbel 14y ago
Works horribly. I'm used to: 1. Click "Play" 2. Hear music Now, I get: 1. Click "Play" 2. Get to a screen that tells me to download Spotify
- niklas_a 14y ago
  Strange, for me Spotify just starts and the music begins toplay.
  - reedlaw 14y ago
    That's because you have to have Spotify installed for this to work.
    - bergie 14y ago
      On the Linux version of Spotify it opens the application but doesn't start to play
      - zgohr 14y ago
        Mine started fine, running Mint.
- dedene 14y ago
  It works perfect when you have the Spotify app open. But indeed, when you don't have it installed or open, it's not really as intuitive as it could be!
- sim0n 14y ago
  It plays in the background if you have Spotify and a browser which supports CORS.
- web_chops 14y ago
  Lucky, you :) I get to see only "Sorry, we're not available where you are."
- bproper 14y ago
  Rdio offers a 30 second clip before asking you to sign up for sign in. http://blog.rdio.com/us/2010/10/now-live-embedding-rdio.html http://blog.rdio.com/us/2010/10/now-live-embedding-rdio.html This isn't a totally open, perfect tool, but Spotify is constrained by the major labels it works with, and I think its good to see them pushing out beyond Facebook.
  - andrewhyde 14y ago
    Love rdio.
  - ChrisLTD 14y ago
    Sadly, neither rdio's or Spotify's embed works for iDevices.
- tjoff 14y ago
  Yes, this is too greedy. The only way this would've worked was if it played instantly regardless of whether you have spotify, an account or not. While it plays you might of course at the same time (discretely) mention that you can download the spotify app for a better experience. This could have been a great way to advertise spotify (in theory replacing an extremely popular use of youtube (that youtube is used as a means to discover music is proof that this is an area just waiting to be disrupted)). No one will use these play-buttons as their main music source so spotify won't loose anything in providing this. Perhaps even a short commercial after the track have been played if you don't already have the client installed would have been an perfectly fair way of recouping whatever "lost" on providing a free listen. Almost saddens me they didn't realize this.
- Hovertruck 14y ago
  You forgot step 3: Angrily give up because they require a Facebook account to sign up.
- eberfreitas 14y ago
  Here is how it "works" for me: 1. Click "Play" 2. Get a message saying that the service is not available where I live.
atnight 14y ago
Can you play songs without a Spotify account?
- scsmith 14y ago
  No. All the button appears to do is open spotify and play the requested song. It does at least sync that playback to the widget though so you can see the song progress and interact with it etc.
- objclxt 14y ago
  No: it doesn't even seem to play back embedded in the page. It launches Spotify and then starts playing the selected track. If you don't have Spotify you're prompted to download it.
  - atnight 14y ago
    OK so it's basically the same as on Facebook then. Not very exciting...
    - Baba_Chaghaloo 14y ago
      You actually need a Facebook account to use Spotify. Not very exciting at all.
      - superafroman 14y ago
        I use Spotify without a Facebook account. You have the option of logging in with your Facebook account, or creating a Spotify account.
        jamiecurle 14y ago
        It's no longer possible to create a Spotify account, you have to login using a Facebook account.
        14y ago
freeslave 14y ago
If devs/bloggers start using these everywhere it means people like me in Canada (and other countries where Spotify is not available) won't be able to hear any music on the web. Soundcloud wins here for me - they may not have a huge major label catalog, but they don't have the restrictive licensing problems that Spotify has.
- mseebach 14y ago
  Soundcloud is greatly preferred for the stuff that's on Soundcloud. This is not for that.
chrischen 14y ago
Someone should do this with the itunes affiliate API and let people make money as well. I'm doubtful this will take over the current YouTube/SoundCloud/Grooveshark embeds.
- chevreuil 14y ago
  If you have a Spotify player opened the user experience of the play button is similar if not better than a Youtube widget (music does not stop if you close your browser).
  - chrischen 14y ago
    The experience isn't better, in fact I'd say it's worse since I'm missing the video and I have to have spotify open AND the song has to be available on spotify. It also makes no sense for the person embedding this to choose this over YouTube. Makes more sense as an alternative/backup option for those who do have spotify.
ravivyas 14y ago
Oh Cool!!! .. a button that works only in 13 countries.
bproper 14y ago
Also important to note - every user that has Spotify open and running is also a node on their P2P CDN. Hugely valuable asset
- freeslave 14y ago
  i hope you are one and the same person - otherwise someone is a copycat. https://twitter.com/#!/jherskowitz/status/190046053389697024 https://twitter.com/#!/jherskowitz/status/190046053389697024
chevreuil 14y ago
By making their content embeddable, Spotify is finnally filling the gap between them and other Flash-based competitors like Youtube/Deezer/SoundCloud. They are really prooving that the old Desktop App vs Browser Apps schism is no longer valid. Does anyone with a non-premium Spotify account can confirm they still have ads using the embeddable play button ?
- chrischen 14y ago
  Why wouldn't ads play? Isn't it just telling the spotify app to play a song?
  - chevreuil 14y ago
    Yes I'm thinking it's the way it should work, but having a premium account I can't check how they implemented it, e.g. does the embedded cover is replaced by a ad banner?
tombot 14y ago
This is great, it means I can run a music blog without breaking any laws because without illegally uploaded the tracks to soundcloud / blogger / tumblr. It also means that you could rigup a Spotify powered muxtape. Now if only we had a Web API for adding tracks to playlists etc
- notatoad 14y ago
  it also means your blog is useless to any people who aren't in a country that has permission to access spotify.
  - bentruyman 14y ago
    Which sucks, but how do you accomplish this legally?
aeurielesn 14y ago
Since I moved to Belgium I have being using Spotify again. But It's getting annoying the loads of ads per song played. So, I think I will go back to use Grooveshark on a daily basis. I refuse to pay a premium Spotify at the moment. I suppose It is gonna be the same for this "Spotify Play Button" button, tons of ads and less music.
Frazze 14y ago
The Spotify desktop client is running a server and the play button acts as a remote. It's using regular get requests and seems to require a CORS-compatible browser. It's the same as typing a Spotify URI in your address bar. I think that means non premium users will have ads.

Spotify Play Button

35 points by stuartmemo 14y ago

sylvinus 14y ago

I wonder how they plan to recoup royalty losses from this? Is this just a marketing investment?

Ineffable 14y ago
It's simply a remote control for the spotify app. They're repaying royalties using subscription payers and ad plays.

skrebbel 14y ago

Works horribly. I'm used to: 1. Click "Play" 2. Hear music Now, I get: 1. Click "Play" 2. Get to a screen that tells me to download Spotify

niklas_a 14y ago
Strange, for me Spotify just starts and the music begins toplay.
- reedlaw 14y ago
  That's because you have to have Spotify installed for this to work.
  - bergie 14y ago
    On the Linux version of Spotify it opens the application but doesn't start to play
    - zgohr 14y ago
      Mine started fine, running Mint.
dedene 14y ago
It works perfect when you have the Spotify app open. But indeed, when you don't have it installed or open, it's not really as intuitive as it could be!
sim0n 14y ago
It plays in the background if you have Spotify and a browser which supports CORS.
web_chops 14y ago
Lucky, you :) I get to see only "Sorry, we're not available where you are."
bproper 14y ago
Rdio offers a 30 second clip before asking you to sign up for sign in. http://blog.rdio.com/us/2010/10/now-live-embedding-rdio.html http://blog.rdio.com/us/2010/10/now-live-embedding-rdio.html This isn't a totally open, perfect tool, but Spotify is constrained by the major labels it works with, and I think its good to see them pushing out beyond Facebook.
- andrewhyde 14y ago
  Love rdio.
- ChrisLTD 14y ago
  Sadly, neither rdio's or Spotify's embed works for iDevices.
tjoff 14y ago
Yes, this is too greedy. The only way this would've worked was if it played instantly regardless of whether you have spotify, an account or not. While it plays you might of course at the same time (discretely) mention that you can download the spotify app for a better experience. This could have been a great way to advertise spotify (in theory replacing an extremely popular use of youtube (that youtube is used as a means to discover music is proof that this is an area just waiting to be disrupted)). No one will use these play-buttons as their main music source so spotify won't loose anything in providing this. Perhaps even a short commercial after the track have been played if you don't already have the client installed would have been an perfectly fair way of recouping whatever "lost" on providing a free listen. Almost saddens me they didn't realize this.
Hovertruck 14y ago
You forgot step 3: Angrily give up because they require a Facebook account to sign up.
eberfreitas 14y ago
Here is how it "works" for me: 1. Click "Play" 2. Get a message saying that the service is not available where I live.

atnight 14y ago

Can you play songs without a Spotify account?

scsmith 14y ago
No. All the button appears to do is open spotify and play the requested song. It does at least sync that playback to the widget though so you can see the song progress and interact with it etc.
objclxt 14y ago
No: it doesn't even seem to play back embedded in the page. It launches Spotify and then starts playing the selected track. If you don't have Spotify you're prompted to download it.
- atnight 14y ago
  OK so it's basically the same as on Facebook then. Not very exciting...
  - Baba_Chaghaloo 14y ago
    You actually need a Facebook account to use Spotify. Not very exciting at all.
    - superafroman 14y ago
      I use Spotify without a Facebook account. You have the option of logging in with your Facebook account, or creating a Spotify account.
      - jamiecurle 14y ago
        It's no longer possible to create a Spotify account, you have to login using a Facebook account.
        14y ago

freeslave 14y ago

If devs/bloggers start using these everywhere it means people like me in Canada (and other countries where Spotify is not available) won't be able to hear any music on the web. Soundcloud wins here for me - they may not have a huge major label catalog, but they don't have the restrictive licensing problems that Spotify has.

mseebach 14y ago
Soundcloud is greatly preferred for the stuff that's on Soundcloud. This is not for that.

chrischen 14y ago

Someone should do this with the itunes affiliate API and let people make money as well. I'm doubtful this will take over the current YouTube/SoundCloud/Grooveshark embeds.

chevreuil 14y ago
If you have a Spotify player opened the user experience of the play button is similar if not better than a Youtube widget (music does not stop if you close your browser).
- chrischen 14y ago
  The experience isn't better, in fact I'd say it's worse since I'm missing the video and I have to have spotify open AND the song has to be available on spotify. It also makes no sense for the person embedding this to choose this over YouTube. Makes more sense as an alternative/backup option for those who do have spotify.

ravivyas 14y ago

Oh Cool!!! .. a button that works only in 13 countries.

bproper 14y ago

Also important to note - every user that has Spotify open and running is also a node on their P2P CDN. Hugely valuable asset

freeslave 14y ago
i hope you are one and the same person - otherwise someone is a copycat. https://twitter.com/#!/jherskowitz/status/190046053389697024 https://twitter.com/#!/jherskowitz/status/190046053389697024

chevreuil 14y ago

By making their content embeddable, Spotify is finnally filling the gap between them and other Flash-based competitors like Youtube/Deezer/SoundCloud. They are really prooving that the old Desktop App vs Browser Apps schism is no longer valid. Does anyone with a non-premium Spotify account can confirm they still have ads using the embeddable play button ?

chrischen 14y ago
Why wouldn't ads play? Isn't it just telling the spotify app to play a song?
- chevreuil 14y ago
  Yes I'm thinking it's the way it should work, but having a premium account I can't check how they implemented it, e.g. does the embedded cover is replaced by a ad banner?

tombot 14y ago

This is great, it means I can run a music blog without breaking any laws because without illegally uploaded the tracks to soundcloud / blogger / tumblr. It also means that you could rigup a Spotify powered muxtape. Now if only we had a Web API for adding tracks to playlists etc

notatoad 14y ago
it also means your blog is useless to any people who aren't in a country that has permission to access spotify.
- bentruyman 14y ago
  Which sucks, but how do you accomplish this legally?

aeurielesn 14y ago

Since I moved to Belgium I have being using Spotify again. But It's getting annoying the loads of ads per song played. So, I think I will go back to use Grooveshark on a daily basis. I refuse to pay a premium Spotify at the moment. I suppose It is gonna be the same for this "Spotify Play Button" button, tons of ads and less music.

Frazze 14y ago

The Spotify desktop client is running a server and the play button acts as a remote. It's using regular get requests and seems to require a CORS-compatible browser. It's the same as typing a Spotify URI in your address bar. I think that means non premium users will have ads.