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What you said, but I'm considering carrying a rock now. Drivers seem to think I'm disposable for committing the crime of walking somewhere. Middle fingers are o

What you said, but I'm considering carrying a rock now. Drivers seem to think I'm disposable for committing the crime of walking somewhere. Middle fingers are only so memorable, but that ding in the paint or a window might help them remember I have the right to not be hit in a crosswalk.

xattt 3y ago
You will be quickly reminded by your local police force that throwing rocks at moving vehicles will result in at least a mischief charge. Your edgy angst is better spent engaging with local levels of government.
falcolas 3y ago
Or it may anger them into jumping a curb to explicitly hit you. Road rage due to damage to their pavement princesses is deadly when your in a cage of steel.
- ta1243 3y ago
  Victim blaming. If a driver can be goaded into murder, perhaps they shouldn't have the tools to commit that murder so easily.
  - potatolicious 3y ago
    I don't read that comment as victim blaming at all, it's just a statement of our sad reality: it's de facto legal to murder someone in a car so long as you're not inebriated and you stay at the scene and plead your innocence. As a general rule I go out of my way to not piss off drivers, not because I think they're in the right, but because they can murder me with impunity and they know it.
  - maerF0x0 3y ago
    But we live in the kinds of society where a person has rights until they prove they shouldn't. Not the potential, but the actuality. Now I think the middle ground might be better enforcement of near misses... "No harm no foul" needs to be removed from the mindset of traffic cops.
  - falcolas 3y ago
    > Victim blaming. A rock thrown at a vehicle moving at speed can be (and has been) charged as attempted first degree murder. There are not really any victims in this scenario. https://jalopnik.com/blood-brothers-kill-woman-after-throwing-a-rock-through-1850942212 https://jalopnik.com/blood-brothers-kill-woman-after-throwin...
    - ta1243 3y ago
      An armed society is a polite society The driver of the vehicle (vehicles cause a dozen 9/11s worth of deaths a year) is armed. Only person that can stop a bad guy with a vehicle is a good guy with a rock.
addicted 3y ago
You most likely will be punished more severely by the law for denting a car with your rock than a driver would be for killing you with their car as long as they were not drinking or ran away from the scene of the crime.
- unglaublich 3y ago
  Killing someone with a car effectively counts as not killing someone.
squam 3y ago
That's a good way to get shot.
- mrtesthah 3y ago
  Pedestrians can conceal-carry.
  - potatolicious 3y ago
    Yep. As I lay dying on the ground, bleeding from every orifice, my organs and bones crushed to a fine pulp at the blunt end of a BMW X7 going 50mph. I will reach for my gun and shoot my assailant. Yep definitely a real plan that solves real problems. /s [edit] Or was the plan to prevent the collision in the first place? As I see the driver coming for me, murder in their eyes, I will smoothly draw my weapon, shoot the driver through the windshield, leap into the air and sail smoothly over my assailant's steel battering ram, executing a perfect three-point superhero landing as my fellow pedestrians cheer. Was that the idea instead?
    - mrtesthah 3y ago
      I'm not specifically advocating that everyone carry guns -- I was just responding to the phrase "that's how you get shot". Entitled drivers should recognize their own mortality in the event that they threaten pedestrians with a gun. But I do prefer your scenario instead.
- occz 3y ago
  Only in uncivilized countries.
mrtesthah 3y ago
Toss some caltrops in the road in front of drivers who would choose to kill you for their own convenience. Or use one of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N3D4J58 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N3D4J58
- maerF0x0 3y ago
  "The referee only sees the retaliation" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWixJl8VFLs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWixJl8VFLs (Bill Burr clip, very adult language)
blacksmith_tb 3y ago
I've always wanted some kind of throwable sticker that says "Watch out, I don't know how to drive!" That's close to what I yell when people playing with their phones almost hit me when I am bike commuting, "learn to drive!"
- tzs 3y ago
  Something very similar to that was suggested about 35 years ago [1] but I don't think anyone tried it. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLmIR6MOFiE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLmIR6MOFiE
gosub100 3y ago
I doubt you would actually do this, but even if you did, I don't see how you could seize the opportunity. Meaning by the time you knew to strike, the car would have to be less than a few feet away, right? Once they pass you, its impossible to hit them. Unless you just wanted to fire on anyone who didn't obey the ped xing (which isn't usually the same thing as a close call).
seniorsassycat 3y ago
I want to carry a large illuminated weight on a fishing pole that I can hang at windscreen height in front of me, so I can claim the space I have the right of way to, without risking my body

xattt 3y ago

You will be quickly reminded by your local police force that throwing rocks at moving vehicles will result in at least a mischief charge. Your edgy angst is better spent engaging with local levels of government.

falcolas 3y ago

Or it may anger them into jumping a curb to explicitly hit you. Road rage due to damage to their pavement princesses is deadly when your in a cage of steel.

ta1243 3y ago
Victim blaming. If a driver can be goaded into murder, perhaps they shouldn't have the tools to commit that murder so easily.
- potatolicious 3y ago
  I don't read that comment as victim blaming at all, it's just a statement of our sad reality: it's de facto legal to murder someone in a car so long as you're not inebriated and you stay at the scene and plead your innocence. As a general rule I go out of my way to not piss off drivers, not because I think they're in the right, but because they can murder me with impunity and they know it.
- maerF0x0 3y ago
  But we live in the kinds of society where a person has rights until they prove they shouldn't. Not the potential, but the actuality. Now I think the middle ground might be better enforcement of near misses... "No harm no foul" needs to be removed from the mindset of traffic cops.
- falcolas 3y ago
  > Victim blaming. A rock thrown at a vehicle moving at speed can be (and has been) charged as attempted first degree murder. There are not really any victims in this scenario. https://jalopnik.com/blood-brothers-kill-woman-after-throwing-a-rock-through-1850942212 https://jalopnik.com/blood-brothers-kill-woman-after-throwin...
  - ta1243 3y ago
    An armed society is a polite society The driver of the vehicle (vehicles cause a dozen 9/11s worth of deaths a year) is armed. Only person that can stop a bad guy with a vehicle is a good guy with a rock.

addicted 3y ago

You most likely will be punished more severely by the law for denting a car with your rock than a driver would be for killing you with their car as long as they were not drinking or ran away from the scene of the crime.

unglaublich 3y ago
Killing someone with a car effectively counts as not killing someone.

squam 3y ago

That's a good way to get shot.

mrtesthah 3y ago
Pedestrians can conceal-carry.
- potatolicious 3y ago
  Yep. As I lay dying on the ground, bleeding from every orifice, my organs and bones crushed to a fine pulp at the blunt end of a BMW X7 going 50mph. I will reach for my gun and shoot my assailant. Yep definitely a real plan that solves real problems. /s [edit] Or was the plan to prevent the collision in the first place? As I see the driver coming for me, murder in their eyes, I will smoothly draw my weapon, shoot the driver through the windshield, leap into the air and sail smoothly over my assailant's steel battering ram, executing a perfect three-point superhero landing as my fellow pedestrians cheer. Was that the idea instead?
  - mrtesthah 3y ago
    I'm not specifically advocating that everyone carry guns -- I was just responding to the phrase "that's how you get shot". Entitled drivers should recognize their own mortality in the event that they threaten pedestrians with a gun. But I do prefer your scenario instead.
occz 3y ago
Only in uncivilized countries.

mrtesthah 3y ago

Toss some caltrops in the road in front of drivers who would choose to kill you for their own convenience. Or use one of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N3D4J58 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N3D4J58

maerF0x0 3y ago
"The referee only sees the retaliation" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWixJl8VFLs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWixJl8VFLs (Bill Burr clip, very adult language)

blacksmith_tb 3y ago

I've always wanted some kind of throwable sticker that says "Watch out, I don't know how to drive!" That's close to what I yell when people playing with their phones almost hit me when I am bike commuting, "learn to drive!"

tzs 3y ago
Something very similar to that was suggested about 35 years ago [1] but I don't think anyone tried it. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLmIR6MOFiE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLmIR6MOFiE

gosub100 3y ago

I doubt you would actually do this, but even if you did, I don't see how you could seize the opportunity. Meaning by the time you knew to strike, the car would have to be less than a few feet away, right? Once they pass you, its impossible to hit them. Unless you just wanted to fire on anyone who didn't obey the ped xing (which isn't usually the same thing as a close call).

seniorsassycat 3y ago

I want to carry a large illuminated weight on a fishing pole that I can hang at windscreen height in front of me, so I can claim the space I have the right of way to, without risking my body