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Well said. If you fancy using my likeness as a dartboard, or in a meme, or as a Photoshop asset, or painted on a canvas, or drawn by AI, or mistakenly randomly
by a_wild_dandan 3y ago
Well said. If you fancy using my likeness as a dartboard, or in a meme, or as a Photoshop asset, or painted on a canvas, or drawn by AI, or mistakenly randomly generated, etc, great! Have fun. Not my circus, not my monkeys.
I'm not entitled to categorically own/forbid using a look. That's nonsense and leads to self-inflicted quandaries: How do I know a video of unknown provenance contains me, not a dead ringer that gave consent? How different must a depiction be to not require my consent? 9 pixels? 30%, whatever that means? At least an eye color change?
It's impossible to consistently enforce, presumptive, and effectively thought-policing a concept. In short: it's absurd.
- tshaddox 3y ago> How do I know a video of unknown provenance contains me, not a dead ringer that gave consent? > It's impossible to consistently enforce, presumptive, and effectively thought-policing a concept. In short: it's absurd. I mean, come on. It’s fine to disapprove of the law, but this isn’t some uniquely difficult thing that the legal system couldn’t possibly handle. It’s certainly nowhere near the level of complexity and ambiguity of, for instance, criminal fraud law, where things like the intent of the accused and the “reasonable person” are routinely crucial elements.
- dragonwriter 3y agoActually it is arguably higher level of complexity, because while intent is not normally an element for right of publicity, it has been looked to along with effect to disambiguate which cases that aren’t simple image or voice likenesses (such as voice impersonations) are nevertheless covered. But it is neither novel nor unique to AI.
- a_wild_dandan 3y agoAcross the internet spreads a noisy video. It's pornography with an absolute dead ringer celebrity face. There are no context clues -- physical SMT, celebrity references, video provenance, etc. What do?
- tshaddox 3y agoI mean, if you don’t know who is responsible, what do you ever do? What if you find a dead body but no clues about how they died? What’s uniquely tricky about this particular type of crime?
- a_wild_dandan 3y agoThere is no unique trickery here. In both cases, you do nothing -- don't charge presumed innocent people with "likeness" theft or with murder.