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You aren't really suffering because the group policy manager or whatever isn't written in the latest winui framework. I'd rather continuity than apple style she

You aren't really suffering because the group policy manager or whatever isn't written in the latest winui framework. I'd rather continuity than apple style shenanigans in the name of an annual rebrand and spitshine.

whalesalad 3y ago
Apple is literally the definition of continuity. All of their apps have looked great and have remained consistent since OS X was initially released. Recent exception is the changes to the system settings panel, but the old design was the same for like 15 years. Just going through the "Let's finish setting up your PC!" that pops up after certain Windows updates (which is a problem in and of itself) illustrates the design inconsistency. Each stage of the wizard is a distinct web view rendering a completely different UI that has different fonts and buttons. You can get them to glitch and scroll a-la old school iframes, too. The context menus in Win11? They are fancy and new but 90% of the functions you want and need are hidden behind a disclosure menu that - you guessed it - pops out an ancient looking Windows 10 menu. Why even add the facade with limited functions? Just keep the old menu. I could probably write a 20 page blog post on all the UI fuckery in Windows 11. There is something to be said for the MSC stuff / management console remaining the same all these years ... but at that point we could all just be happy on Windows 2K shell with modern kernel and security enhancements.
- seec 3y ago
  That's hardly true for many of the Apple apps (go look at the iTunes UI archive) and many of the changes are of questionnable usefulness/coherence/consistency. You are just more used to it and prefer the "airy" look. As far as I'm concerned, macOS has severely regressed and that's before considering 3rd party apps. Many of them do not macOS UI convention anymore (they became shitty anyway) and many others just use completely custom UI (both technical and look); to finish you have windows/linux ports that just have the chrome of a macOS apps but the whole UI is completely foreign and doesn't even try to fit in. If your use case fits narrowly into the confine of what software Apple produces, I guess you could loosely say that. But their continuity is only about a general look, sadly not how things work (or should work), not really that important in the end. The System Preferences re-design is precisely a case of looks over everything else (and previously it already had been downgraded, with sections/labels removed to make it look more minimalist). Apple makes fashion and like a shirt it will follow a basic pattern, but a lot of details change, and it matters...

whalesalad 3y ago

Apple is literally the definition of continuity. All of their apps have looked great and have remained consistent since OS X was initially released. Recent exception is the changes to the system settings panel, but the old design was the same for like 15 years. Just going through the "Let's finish setting up your PC!" that pops up after certain Windows updates (which is a problem in and of itself) illustrates the design inconsistency. Each stage of the wizard is a distinct web view rendering a completely different UI that has different fonts and buttons. You can get them to glitch and scroll a-la old school iframes, too. The context menus in Win11? They are fancy and new but 90% of the functions you want and need are hidden behind a disclosure menu that - you guessed it - pops out an ancient looking Windows 10 menu. Why even add the facade with limited functions? Just keep the old menu. I could probably write a 20 page blog post on all the UI fuckery in Windows 11. There is something to be said for the MSC stuff / management console remaining the same all these years ... but at that point we could all just be happy on Windows 2K shell with modern kernel and security enhancements.

seec 3y ago
That's hardly true for many of the Apple apps (go look at the iTunes UI archive) and many of the changes are of questionnable usefulness/coherence/consistency. You are just more used to it and prefer the "airy" look. As far as I'm concerned, macOS has severely regressed and that's before considering 3rd party apps. Many of them do not macOS UI convention anymore (they became shitty anyway) and many others just use completely custom UI (both technical and look); to finish you have windows/linux ports that just have the chrome of a macOS apps but the whole UI is completely foreign and doesn't even try to fit in. If your use case fits narrowly into the confine of what software Apple produces, I guess you could loosely say that. But their continuity is only about a general look, sadly not how things work (or should work), not really that important in the end. The System Preferences re-design is precisely a case of looks over everything else (and previously it already had been downgraded, with sections/labels removed to make it look more minimalist). Apple makes fashion and like a shirt it will follow a basic pattern, but a lot of details change, and it matters...