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Is this sarcasm/trolling? I honestly can't tell.

by sho 3y ago

dtech 3y ago
Not sure, but if there's any place you could find genuine posts like this it's a subreddit dedicated to the product that's being praised.
FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Are people not allowed to have a positive opinion about an OS you dislike? The OS is like a tool, not a religion. If it works for you great, if not then pick another tool, no need to go into a heated holy-war debate about how your tool is the beast and other people are using the wrong tool.
- s3p 3y ago
  How did OP go into a holy war debate about his favorite OS? Where is the comment of him saying that? Where is him praising an alternative to windows? Or, maybe, is it possible that he was only asking a question?
- fsflover 3y ago
  > Are people not allowed to have a positive opinion about an OS you dislike? The original post has no details whatsoever, it's just praising Windows for no reason. To me it does look like trolling.
  - taylodl 3y ago
    ^^^^^ This. Echoes my thoughts. Completely devoid of any details.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    >The original post has no details whatsoever, it's just praising Windows for no reason. To me it does look like trolling. The details are in his post: "this is the most beautiful OS UI ever, more than GNOME and MacOS in my opinion" The author lets us know he likes the interface of W11 more. Very important aspect for a OS you'll have to use regularly. "After years of distro hopping and constant problems [...] not have to worry about Wayland, Nvidia" The author lets un know he distro hopped but had issues with Wayland and Nvidia. Again an important point, what use is a OS that has issues with your HW/setup? Better stick to what already works for you. Most people don't have time to go into wikis, forums and tutorial rabbit holes to get $DISTRO working on their HW if Windows already works out of the box. To me at least, the author has made it clear why W11 is better than Linux -FOR HIM-. So either you didn't read his post or you're the one who's trolling.
    - fsflover 3y ago
      > The author lets un know he distro hopped but had issues with Wayland and Nvidia. Which issues? On which hardware? If you install Linux on a random Windows-certified laptop, you should expect troubles and don't blame others for them. Would you blame Windows when it doesn't work on a MacBook? You should buy Linux preinstalled, just like you do with other OSes. I'm a happy Linux user for many years, with working graphics, WiFi and suspend.
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        >Which issues? On which hardware? Does it really matter that much which exact issues, on an opinion piece? Is he the first Linux user to have issues with Wayland and Nvidia? Come on, be reasonable and assume good faith, no need to be a stickler. > If you install Linux on a random Windows-certified laptop, you should expect troubles Where does it say you should expect troubles? Every article and post online is praising that Linux works just as good or even better than Windows, causing most of non-technical people to hop on the Linux hype train and immediately be disappointed with various issues around UI scaling, HW acceleration, Nvidia, Wayland, etc. >and don't blame others for them Who has he blamed for his problems? Which individuals? Read his text again. To me it reads that he had issues with Linux but non with W11, no victim blaming.
        fsflover 3y ago
        > Where does it say you should expect troubles? AFAIK every Linux distribution has a section on the website about recommended hardware, don't they? Yes, Linux is better than Windows in many ways, and many people have a good reason to say that. Maybe they should always add that you should choose your hardware carefully, which I did above. > no victim blaming The victims in this case are Linux developers and the whole Linux community, which is harmed by unsubstantiated claims that Linux doesn't work reliably. Nobody guaranteed ever that any OS would work on all hardware in the world. I'm tired of this myth. > Does it really matter that much which exact issues, on an opinion piece? What if I write an opinion piece that Windows is extremely buggy and slow on my unspecified hardware (which happens to be, e.g., a MacBook or oldest Raspberry Pi)? Does such "opinion piece" bring anything useful to the audience?
nerdjon 3y ago
Judging by their post history I don’t think so unless this was a month long troll. That being said, they seem to have been having problems so it isn’t crazy to think they would have moved to Windows and it just works as they want it too.
- jchw 3y ago
  Oh I believe that they actually tried Linux, I just don't believe that they ever switched to it. I've seen this one before: they tried to switch to Linux, it ran/worked like shit (not really surprising, desktop Linux is a perpetual mess) and then they probably made this troll-ish post. That's my guess. I doubt they "switched" from Linux, though. I bet (without having done much research) that they tried to switch TO Linux, and it didn't go very well. That's my guess. Could be wrong, but there are several aspects of the post that make me suspect it's spiteful. If you're going to troll Linux communities these days, you absolutely have to use the term "distro-hopping" in your dissertation.

Is this sarcasm/trolling? I honestly can't tell.

by sho 3y ago

Is this sarcasm/trolling? I honestly can't tell.

Not sure, but if there's any place you could find genuine posts like this it's a subreddit dedicated to the product that's being praised.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

Are people not allowed to have a positive opinion about an OS you dislike? The OS is like a tool, not a religion. If it works for you great, if not then pick another tool, no need to go into a heated holy-war debate about how your tool is the beast and other people are using the wrong tool.

s3p 3y ago
How did OP go into a holy war debate about his favorite OS? Where is the comment of him saying that? Where is him praising an alternative to windows? Or, maybe, is it possible that he was only asking a question?
fsflover 3y ago
> Are people not allowed to have a positive opinion about an OS you dislike? The original post has no details whatsoever, it's just praising Windows for no reason. To me it does look like trolling.
- taylodl 3y ago
  ^^^^^ This. Echoes my thoughts. Completely devoid of any details.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >The original post has no details whatsoever, it's just praising Windows for no reason. To me it does look like trolling. The details are in his post: "this is the most beautiful OS UI ever, more than GNOME and MacOS in my opinion" The author lets us know he likes the interface of W11 more. Very important aspect for a OS you'll have to use regularly. "After years of distro hopping and constant problems [...] not have to worry about Wayland, Nvidia" The author lets un know he distro hopped but had issues with Wayland and Nvidia. Again an important point, what use is a OS that has issues with your HW/setup? Better stick to what already works for you. Most people don't have time to go into wikis, forums and tutorial rabbit holes to get $DISTRO working on their HW if Windows already works out of the box. To me at least, the author has made it clear why W11 is better than Linux -FOR HIM-. So either you didn't read his post or you're the one who's trolling.
  - fsflover 3y ago
    > The author lets un know he distro hopped but had issues with Wayland and Nvidia. Which issues? On which hardware? If you install Linux on a random Windows-certified laptop, you should expect troubles and don't blame others for them. Would you blame Windows when it doesn't work on a MacBook? You should buy Linux preinstalled, just like you do with other OSes. I'm a happy Linux user for many years, with working graphics, WiFi and suspend.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      >Which issues? On which hardware? Does it really matter that much which exact issues, on an opinion piece? Is he the first Linux user to have issues with Wayland and Nvidia? Come on, be reasonable and assume good faith, no need to be a stickler. > If you install Linux on a random Windows-certified laptop, you should expect troubles Where does it say you should expect troubles? Every article and post online is praising that Linux works just as good or even better than Windows, causing most of non-technical people to hop on the Linux hype train and immediately be disappointed with various issues around UI scaling, HW acceleration, Nvidia, Wayland, etc. >and don't blame others for them Who has he blamed for his problems? Which individuals? Read his text again. To me it reads that he had issues with Linux but non with W11, no victim blaming.
      - fsflover 3y ago
        > Where does it say you should expect troubles? AFAIK every Linux distribution has a section on the website about recommended hardware, don't they? Yes, Linux is better than Windows in many ways, and many people have a good reason to say that. Maybe they should always add that you should choose your hardware carefully, which I did above. > no victim blaming The victims in this case are Linux developers and the whole Linux community, which is harmed by unsubstantiated claims that Linux doesn't work reliably. Nobody guaranteed ever that any OS would work on all hardware in the world. I'm tired of this myth. > Does it really matter that much which exact issues, on an opinion piece? What if I write an opinion piece that Windows is extremely buggy and slow on my unspecified hardware (which happens to be, e.g., a MacBook or oldest Raspberry Pi)? Does such "opinion piece" bring anything useful to the audience?

nerdjon 3y ago

Judging by their post history I don’t think so unless this was a month long troll. That being said, they seem to have been having problems so it isn’t crazy to think they would have moved to Windows and it just works as they want it too.

jchw 3y ago
Oh I believe that they actually tried Linux, I just don't believe that they ever switched to it. I've seen this one before: they tried to switch to Linux, it ran/worked like shit (not really surprising, desktop Linux is a perpetual mess) and then they probably made this troll-ish post. That's my guess. I doubt they "switched" from Linux, though. I bet (without having done much research) that they tried to switch TO Linux, and it didn't go very well. That's my guess. Could be wrong, but there are several aspects of the post that make me suspect it's spiteful. If you're going to troll Linux communities these days, you absolutely have to use the term "distro-hopping" in your dissertation.