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I'm no expert but I think Rome was always growing but never achieved ultimate profitability. Yesterday I was considering how the Italian renaissance was fueled

I'm no expert but I think Rome was always growing but never achieved ultimate profitability. Yesterday I was considering how the Italian renaissance was fueled by the materials left over from Roman overbuilding. The price Rome originally paid in labor was an enormous savings to the renaissance builders. I don't see how space can be profitable but societies must grow.

pmontra 3y ago
How do you define profitability for a entity like Rome or its current equivalents, let's say the USA, China and maybe Russia? As Italian, we're still profiting from what the Romans built and from their general hegemony.
- airstrike 3y ago
  There's always an element of time to money, so your argument and the parent's don't contradict in that the romans might have not been profitable in the near term yet what they created was very profitable in the long term
- detourdog 3y ago
  Mostly on the idea that as the Roman Empire expanded its currency was devalued by precious metal content. That sort of pattern signifies to me decline. I understand that the currency may have been just keeping pace with the efficiency of trade. It seems to me that if trade was as efficient as Rome was hoping it would not have collapsed. Another way to look at it is that the empire ran into a labor shortage and contracted back to a sustainable size.
pixl97 3y ago
> how space can be profitable Figuring out how to get large nearly pure metallic asteroids in earth orbit would go a long way in figuring out that profitability.
- detourdog 3y ago
  The problem is that there seem to be plenty of easier to solve problems that would have an immediate effect on the dignity of human existance. I love the challenge of space technically. My concern is confusing technical challenges with profitable/worthy pursuits. I say this as a collector of inertial guidance systems.

pmontra 3y ago

How do you define profitability for a entity like Rome or its current equivalents, let's say the USA, China and maybe Russia? As Italian, we're still profiting from what the Romans built and from their general hegemony.

airstrike 3y ago
There's always an element of time to money, so your argument and the parent's don't contradict in that the romans might have not been profitable in the near term yet what they created was very profitable in the long term
detourdog 3y ago
Mostly on the idea that as the Roman Empire expanded its currency was devalued by precious metal content. That sort of pattern signifies to me decline. I understand that the currency may have been just keeping pace with the efficiency of trade. It seems to me that if trade was as efficient as Rome was hoping it would not have collapsed. Another way to look at it is that the empire ran into a labor shortage and contracted back to a sustainable size.

pixl97 3y ago

> how space can be profitable Figuring out how to get large nearly pure metallic asteroids in earth orbit would go a long way in figuring out that profitability.

detourdog 3y ago
The problem is that there seem to be plenty of easier to solve problems that would have an immediate effect on the dignity of human existance. I love the challenge of space technically. My concern is confusing technical challenges with profitable/worthy pursuits. I say this as a collector of inertial guidance systems.