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The nice thing about Tiktok is we can totally trust the CCP to show brainwashing content to the children of foreign adversaries. China banned Instagram et. al.
by j0ba 3y ago
The nice thing about Tiktok is we can totally trust the CCP to show brainwashing content to the children of foreign adversaries.
China banned Instagram et. al. because they're not stupid. They don't want foreign influence on their children.
US politicians are both corrupt and stupid.
- kvgr 3y agoThis, china has access to "weights" that push content to people and pushes some content to background.
- thesuitonym 3y agoWhy do you think Tiktok is brainwashing children (why is it always children?) and Facebook, Twitter, etc aren't? Why do you think Tiktok is the only vector for foreign influence, when it's been documented many, many times that domestic social media sites are rife with foreign misinformation? What do you think Tiktok will do? Destabilize the US? Our politicians are already doing that. No need to worry about a boogyman from the other side of the globe. It's just a distraction.
- Ialdaboth 3y agoOn the long term, anthropological warfare is a clever idea... but it's probably a little too optimistic to think you can implement with just one app. The CCP/tiktok hysteria feels overblown to me - public education is what constituents should feel concerned about.
- toasted-subs 3y agoSays a person who hasn't had to deal with direct harassment by these organizations. In my opinion these apps should be banned immediately.
- flkenosad 3y agoYou think they should ban HN too? Or twitter?
- toasted-subs 3y agoI think it depends, my experience on hacker news has been extremely positive with the exceptions of malicious posters who downvote my cries for help. These are obvious and not depend on the platform but the user's in question. The experience I have with Twitter (X) has been people trying to help me. There's a difference between malicious users and malicious platforms.
- vasdae 3y agoTiktok has been scrutinised so much that if they were showing "brainwashing content" to Western children we would've heard about it already.
- DrThunder 3y agoWe have heard about it.... you're just not getting your news from sources that mention it. There are multiple things they allow on American TikTok that they do not allow on Chinese TikTok. They allow these things because they know it helps with social decay in America.
- vasdae 3y agoI agree with you in principle but there's no difference between that and what's allowed in other American platforms. Degenerate content is everywhere in all platforms. For tiktok to be special in this regard they would have to allow something different that went way beyond what American platforms allow, and that's thus far not happening.
- autoexec 3y ago> For tiktok to be special in this regard they would have to allow something different that went way beyond what American platforms allow I'm not sure that's true. There's a big difference between "Some amount of degenerate content exists on American platforms which are constantly fighting to identify and remove it" and "Adversarial foreign platform intentionally creates/curates degenerate content to push it to American audiences while keeping it from their own users" Even if you're talking about content that both platforms fully allow, if one platform targets a group and floods their feeds with certain content with an intent to harm that group that is itself a problem. The fact that it is possible to find harmful content on youtube doesn't make it the same as a platform that intentionally and relentlessly shoves harmful content in your face. I can't say how guilty tiktok is of doing that however.
- vasdae 3y ago
- rayiner 3y agoHave you seen the CCP propaganda on Tik Tok though? It’s quite wholesome. Like there’s one where this guy randomly helps poor kids and old people he encounters. It paints Chinese society in a positive light, probably making the standard of living seem better than it is. But in a way it’s not unlike what many Americans wish their kids were watching.
- sidewndr46 3y agoShow the one where the guy gets caught up in an obscure non-state approved religion, falls down on his luck, but the government steps in & sends him to a retreat to get better. Then he enjoys the rest of his life manufacturing goods in a factory as part of his rehabilitation.
- toasted-subs 3y agoThey show what they wants to people. Seems extremely scary and suspicious to any parent with half a brain.
- stemlord 3y agoI don't disagree that US politicians are corrupt and stupid but as an American citizen I want to be able to access the world's information in order to establish an accurate perspective for myself. Banning media from certain countries is exactly how you develop a delusional worldview and ironically become more susceptible to propaganda.
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- gardenhedge 3y agoHow about each public video is accessible but not in the algorithm scroll structure?
- averageRoyalty 3y agoIt's not banning media from a country though, it's banning an app that is country run and can select specific media to show you.
- Dah00n 3y agoIt is no more country run than Facebook.
- TotoHorner 3y agoYeah you're completely uneducated on the topic. Several media outlets did a dive on the connections the CCP has into TikTok. Their security auditors implied that they have backdoors.
- Akronymus 3y agoPer the HN Guidelines: > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." It is quite unnecessary to hear you call everyone you disagree with uneducated or similar.