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You're throwing the baby with the water here. Lobbying I'd argue is an essential part of democracy because it allows groups of people that have a shared conce

by 0dayz 3y ago

You're throwing the baby with the water here. Lobbying I'd argue is an essential part of democracy because it allows groups of people that have a shared concern to come together and make their case to the politicians.

xkcd1963 3y ago
But that shouldn't come down to the money. If only the people who amassed huge amounts of money can influence there is no democracy.
- 0dayz 3y ago
  Lobbying does not have to be done via donations. Otherwise I'm very curious how NGOs can lobby.
  - xkcd1963 3y ago
    What do you imply? To me it doesn't matter if you use a different word for monetary value, be it donation or something else, it comes down to the same, namely money.
    - 0dayz 3y ago
      No. Lobbying is not inherently money oriented.
squarefoot 3y ago
> ... groups of people that have a shared concern to come together and make their case to the politicians. That would be solved by referenda, with their results and number of people affected being presented to the politicians so that they must deal with the problem. Lobbying as it is now in many countries (possibly all of them) has nothing to do with that and to me is just legalized corruption.
- mrmanner 3y ago
  Who pays to let people know there’s a referendum they should vote in?