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So people seems to be confusing two different aspects when buying a Tesla truck. You are buying the physical truck and the "suscription" to use with Tesla servi

by 101008 3y ago

So people seems to be confusing two different aspects when buying a Tesla truck. You are buying the physical truck and the "suscription" to use with Tesla services (supercharges, updated, warranty, etc). Yes, you own the physical truck and you can do whatever you want with it. It's yours. You can destroy it, you can set it on fire, you can paint it as you want. And you can sell it before the year. But doing this last one (and some of the ones before) will break your agreement for the suscription/services part. I do not support this idea, although I understand where it is coming from. Just explainign this because a few comments are saying "I don't own the truck?" and yes, you do, but you don't own access to their services forever.

drcongo 3y ago
Why would you want to continue using the "services" if you've sold the truck?
- bitshiftfaced 3y ago
  I take it that the person buying it will be less likely to want it.
- 101008 3y ago
  I guess the service is attached to the truck and not the person. So you sell the truck and the buyer cannot use the service for their new truck anymore.
icepat 3y ago
This is why the idea of subscriptions embedded in physical products like cars needs to go.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  But it's THE Cybertruck from Tesla, the most anticipated status symbol from our meme lord and savior, the X-man himself, Elon Musk. People will line around the block to buy his subscription vehicles, no matter how silly they get, and because of that, every auto maker will follow suit.
jellicle 3y ago
You probably ought to read the link before commenting. This isn't about the service agreement (which Tesla already screws owners on) but about a new, improved addition to the sales agreement which straight up says that you owe Tesla fifty thousand dollars if you sell the truck. You can do whatever you want with it... you just owe Tesla $50k if you do.
tyingq 3y ago
The parent comment is just wrong on it's main point, and several other points. Here's the Cybertruck specific text from the agreement image: "For Cybertruck Only: You understand and acknowledge that the Cybertruck will first be released in limited quantity. You agree that you will not sell or otherwise attempt to sell the Vehicle within the first year following your Vehicle's delivery date. Notwithstanding the foregoing, if you must sell the Vehicle within the first year following its delivery date for any unforeseen reason, and Tesla agrees that your reason warrants an exception to its no reseller policy, you agree to notify Tesla in writing and give Tesla reasonable time to purchase the Vehicle from you at its sole discretion and at the purchase price listed on your Final Price Sheet less $0.25/mile driven, reasonable wear and tear, and the cost to repair the Vehicle to Tesla's Used Vehicle Cosmetic and Mechanical Standards. If Tesla declines to purchase your Vehicle, you may then resell your Vehicle to a third party only after receiving written consent from Tesla. You agree that in the event you breach this provision, or Tesla has reasonable belief that you are about to breach this provision, Tesla may seek injunctive relief to prevent the transfer of title of the Vehicle or demand liquidated damages from you in the amount of $50,000 or the value received as consideration for the sale or transfer, whichever is greater. Tesla may also refuse to sell you any future vehicles."
- kcplate 3y ago
  You still own it and can still sell it. There is just a clause in the original bill of sale giving Tesla the right of first refusal at a pre-negotiated price within the first year. You can look at the $50k (or sales windfall) as the cost of breaking the ROFR clause of your original sales contract. Tesla can opt not to buy it and then you can resell it. The “consent” is implicit at that point of their refusal but you and your buyer will want that refusal in writing, so that any subscription or warranty requirements of the vehicle can transfer to the new owner.
  - tyingq 3y ago
    "if you must sell the Vehicle within the first year...and Tesla agrees that your reason warrants an exception to its no reseller policy" I don't own it if the original seller gets to decide if I'm granted an exception to sell it. Note there's no listed criteria for that decision, so it's arbitrary, at Tesla's discretion. All the things you're citing hinge on that exception being granted by Tesla in the first place. There's other problems with the language as well.

by 101008 3y ago

drcongo 3y ago

Why would you want to continue using the "services" if you've sold the truck?

bitshiftfaced 3y ago
I take it that the person buying it will be less likely to want it.
101008 3y ago
I guess the service is attached to the truck and not the person. So you sell the truck and the buyer cannot use the service for their new truck anymore.

icepat 3y ago

This is why the idea of subscriptions embedded in physical products like cars needs to go.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
But it's THE Cybertruck from Tesla, the most anticipated status symbol from our meme lord and savior, the X-man himself, Elon Musk. People will line around the block to buy his subscription vehicles, no matter how silly they get, and because of that, every auto maker will follow suit.

jellicle 3y ago

You probably ought to read the link before commenting. This isn't about the service agreement (which Tesla already screws owners on) but about a new, improved addition to the sales agreement which straight up says that you owe Tesla fifty thousand dollars if you sell the truck. You can do whatever you want with it... you just owe Tesla $50k if you do.

tyingq 3y ago

The parent comment is just wrong on it's main point, and several other points. Here's the Cybertruck specific text from the agreement image: "For Cybertruck Only: You understand and acknowledge that the Cybertruck will first be released in limited quantity. You agree that you will not sell or otherwise attempt to sell the Vehicle within the first year following your Vehicle's delivery date. Notwithstanding the foregoing, if you must sell the Vehicle within the first year following its delivery date for any unforeseen reason, and Tesla agrees that your reason warrants an exception to its no reseller policy, you agree to notify Tesla in writing and give Tesla reasonable time to purchase the Vehicle from you at its sole discretion and at the purchase price listed on your Final Price Sheet less $0.25/mile driven, reasonable wear and tear, and the cost to repair the Vehicle to Tesla's Used Vehicle Cosmetic and Mechanical Standards. If Tesla declines to purchase your Vehicle, you may then resell your Vehicle to a third party only after receiving written consent from Tesla. You agree that in the event you breach this provision, or Tesla has reasonable belief that you are about to breach this provision, Tesla may seek injunctive relief to prevent the transfer of title of the Vehicle or demand liquidated damages from you in the amount of $50,000 or the value received as consideration for the sale or transfer, whichever is greater. Tesla may also refuse to sell you any future vehicles."

kcplate 3y ago
You still own it and can still sell it. There is just a clause in the original bill of sale giving Tesla the right of first refusal at a pre-negotiated price within the first year. You can look at the $50k (or sales windfall) as the cost of breaking the ROFR clause of your original sales contract. Tesla can opt not to buy it and then you can resell it. The “consent” is implicit at that point of their refusal but you and your buyer will want that refusal in writing, so that any subscription or warranty requirements of the vehicle can transfer to the new owner.
- tyingq 3y ago
  "if you must sell the Vehicle within the first year...and Tesla agrees that your reason warrants an exception to its no reseller policy" I don't own it if the original seller gets to decide if I'm granted an exception to sell it. Note there's no listed criteria for that decision, so it's arbitrary, at Tesla's discretion. All the things you're citing hinge on that exception being granted by Tesla in the first place. There's other problems with the language as well.