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So, if at some point he starts funding military spaceships that can shoot illegal migrants from space, do we still take the good with the bad, or do we denounce

by mrpopo 3y ago

So, if at some point he starts funding military spaceships that can shoot illegal migrants from space, do we still take the good with the bad, or do we denounce his behaviour?

rizky05 3y ago
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zpeti 3y ago
Firstly, that would be illegal, and government(s) could step in. Secondly, there are quite a few steps between having enough of woke twitter and buying it, which I'm pretty sure 20-30%, maybe even 40% of the population agrees with, and shooting illegal immigrants. I know the media try their best to portray these two as equivalents, but they're just not. Also keep in mind the biggest loser from the twitter acquisition is probably the establishment journalists, so they do have an axe to grind. Their views are not going to be objective on musk.
- mrpopo 3y ago
  Elon Musk isn't just "denouncing woke twitter". He is actively, politically involved in Mexico border crossing debates, meeting with politicians and border patrols, etc.
  - nicky0 3y ago
    And somehow you extrapolate from "meeting with politicians and border patrols" to shooting migrants from space?
    - mrpopo 3y ago
      No. OP was suggesting we shouldn't denounce the bad things he's doing, because of the good things he's doing. My point is, should we wait for the bad to outweigh the good, and who will be the judge of that?
      - deleted 3y ago
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ryzvonusef 3y ago
we can cross that hypothetical bridge, if it ever exists and gets crossed, no use in raising hypotheticals. right now it's just stupid tweets, I ignore them and live my life, after all, my life has never been in danger from any of his tweets, but it HAS been from actual american drones doing actual bombing. I survived that, I will survive his tweets.
- Zardoz84 3y ago
  I'm sure that someone said something similar about the first public speeches of Hitler
  - ViewTrick1002 3y ago
    Elon Musk literally is Hitler! Like, what?!
  - hef19898 3y ago
    In deed they did. After the elections in 1933, free and fair elections prior to the Nazis taking power in the staged elections later that year during which the Nazis used their party apparatus as a shafow administration and blunt and brutal force and violence, the conservative establishment picked Hitler and the NSDAP for exactly that rwason: The needed someone to lead a coalition government against the left, they choose Hitler because they didn't take him really serious and thought they could easily manipulate him. We all know well that turned out.
  - ryzvonusef 3y ago
    I am not from your part of the world; application of Godwin's law in online discourse always amuses me, since I damn care about hitler or what he and his ilk did, my part of the world had other boogie men. Regardless, I standby my remark.

by mrpopo 3y ago

So, if at some point he starts funding military spaceships that can shoot illegal migrants from space, do we still take the good with the bad, or do we denounce his behaviour?

rizky05 3y ago

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zpeti 3y ago

Firstly, that would be illegal, and government(s) could step in. Secondly, there are quite a few steps between having enough of woke twitter and buying it, which I'm pretty sure 20-30%, maybe even 40% of the population agrees with, and shooting illegal immigrants. I know the media try their best to portray these two as equivalents, but they're just not. Also keep in mind the biggest loser from the twitter acquisition is probably the establishment journalists, so they do have an axe to grind. Their views are not going to be objective on musk.

mrpopo 3y ago
Elon Musk isn't just "denouncing woke twitter". He is actively, politically involved in Mexico border crossing debates, meeting with politicians and border patrols, etc.
- nicky0 3y ago
  And somehow you extrapolate from "meeting with politicians and border patrols" to shooting migrants from space?
  - mrpopo 3y ago
    No. OP was suggesting we shouldn't denounce the bad things he's doing, because of the good things he's doing. My point is, should we wait for the bad to outweigh the good, and who will be the judge of that?
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ryzvonusef 3y ago

we can cross that hypothetical bridge, if it ever exists and gets crossed, no use in raising hypotheticals. right now it's just stupid tweets, I ignore them and live my life, after all, my life has never been in danger from any of his tweets, but it HAS been from actual american drones doing actual bombing. I survived that, I will survive his tweets.

Zardoz84 3y ago
I'm sure that someone said something similar about the first public speeches of Hitler
- ViewTrick1002 3y ago
  Elon Musk literally is Hitler! Like, what?!
- hef19898 3y ago
  In deed they did. After the elections in 1933, free and fair elections prior to the Nazis taking power in the staged elections later that year during which the Nazis used their party apparatus as a shafow administration and blunt and brutal force and violence, the conservative establishment picked Hitler and the NSDAP for exactly that rwason: The needed someone to lead a coalition government against the left, they choose Hitler because they didn't take him really serious and thought they could easily manipulate him. We all know well that turned out.
- ryzvonusef 3y ago
  I am not from your part of the world; application of Godwin's law in online discourse always amuses me, since I damn care about hitler or what he and his ilk did, my part of the world had other boogie men. Regardless, I standby my remark.