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Here are other non-paywalled articles reporting on the news, but some say The Information was the first to report. https://nypost.com/2023/11/13/business/opena

Here are other non-paywalled articles reporting on the news, but some say The Information was the first to report. https://nypost.com/2023/11/13/business/openai-reportedly-trying-to-poach-google-ai-talent-with-10m-pay-packages-as-race-heats-up/amp/ https://nypost.com/2023/11/13/business/openai-reportedly-try... https://www.businessinsider.com/openai-recruiters-luring-google-ai-employees-10-million-compensation-package-2023-11?amp https://www.businessinsider.com/openai-recruiters-luring-goo... That said, the headline says the most of it: OpenAI-Google poaching wars similar to Facebook-Google now about 10 years ago, though the pay packages are about double today. Note that the creator of Kubernetes almost took a poach to Facebook, but Google countered and he stayed to create Kubernetes. So the astute HN reader will look at the article headline and then look beyond, as often the article doesn’t tell the whole story. Also context: YC has vested interests in OpenAI and HN moderation is part of YC. It is beyond me why HN moderation here decides to target my submission with needless references (one of those links is over 7 years old now) and have that appear at the top of the comments. Instead of hey maybe linking to non-paywalled articles. Which would be in the spirit of making HN a place about conversation and learning. And which would be much more aligned with how YC compensates HN moderation. Given there are many hard walled / paywalled articles posted to HN and do not receive such attention from HN mods as has done here, I hope the HN readers are able to weigh how HN mods target certain people in these forums.

MichaelZuo 3y ago
> Given there are many hard walled / paywalled articles posted to HN I've never seen a hardwalled article on the frontpage, without any workaround whatsoever, in the last month at least. If you can link to a few recent examples this would be more credible.
- choppaface 3y ago
  Search for yourself articles with any sort of wall are posted here all the time and HN moderation does not consistently comment and moreover allows people to post gift links which everybody here likes but in fact violate TOS. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=theinformation.com&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=nytimes.com&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Also this 7yo flamewar: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12683017 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12683017
dang 3y ago
Nobody's targeting you. You posted a hardwalled article, which is against HN's rules; that's all.
- choppaface 3y ago
  sort by date, several articles from this site posted in the past few weeks with zero HN moderation commenting: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=theinformation.com&sort=byDate&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... While HN moderation might argue X Y or Z, the evidence confirms targeting, the comments here by HN moderation stigma both submission and discussion, and the substance of the article is primarily the headline anyways. HN moderation and YC leadership have a well-established desire to antagonize, see e.g. https://techbrosf.weebly.com/ https://techbrosf.weebly.com/
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squigz 3y ago
> target my submission with needless references (one of those links is over 7 years old now) and have that appear at the top of the comments. This is... dramatic. Moderation comments appearing at the top of a thread is pretty common and makes perfect sense to me. One of the 'references' you're talking about is the site FAQ, and the other is a thread explaining the policy change re: paywalled articles; I'm not sure why its age is relevant.

MichaelZuo 3y ago

> Given there are many hard walled / paywalled articles posted to HN I've never seen a hardwalled article on the frontpage, without any workaround whatsoever, in the last month at least. If you can link to a few recent examples this would be more credible.

choppaface 3y ago
Search for yourself articles with any sort of wall are posted here all the time and HN moderation does not consistently comment and moreover allows people to post gift links which everybody here likes but in fact violate TOS. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=theinformation.com&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=nytimes.com&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... Also this 7yo flamewar: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12683017 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12683017

dang 3y ago

Nobody's targeting you. You posted a hardwalled article, which is against HN's rules; that's all.

choppaface 3y ago
sort by date, several articles from this site posted in the past few weeks with zero HN moderation commenting: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=theinformation.com&sort=byDate&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... While HN moderation might argue X Y or Z, the evidence confirms targeting, the comments here by HN moderation stigma both submission and discussion, and the substance of the article is primarily the headline anyways. HN moderation and YC leadership have a well-established desire to antagonize, see e.g. https://techbrosf.weebly.com/ https://techbrosf.weebly.com/
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squigz 3y ago

> target my submission with needless references (one of those links is over 7 years old now) and have that appear at the top of the comments. This is... dramatic. Moderation comments appearing at the top of a thread is pretty common and makes perfect sense to me. One of the 'references' you're talking about is the site FAQ, and the other is a thread explaining the policy change re: paywalled articles; I'm not sure why its age is relevant.