I was going to write these points but in reverse. I’m an outgoing engineer in Seattle and I find myself to be a bit of a lightning rod for “just hear my app ide

I was going to write these points but in reverse. I’m an outgoing engineer in Seattle and I find myself to be a bit of a lightning rod for “just hear my app idea out” types. Invariably every bar-top pitch I hear breaks down on just the points you mention. - there is no clear vision of how the app addresses a real world, widely experienced problem. - “how are we going to make money” should be a really easy-to-answer question for a founder, but not in my experience. - there is a weird obsession with a tech stack that they obviously know nothing about. More vaguely, requirements they describe are at the wrong level of abstraction for an “ideas person” - they are way more likely to vomit more and more “potential” user experiences than to have a solid understanding of the core experience, like a PM from the pits of hell itself. - As an engineer I can smell a salesman from a mile away. My brain works in logical steps and bottom-up, so grand-design sales pitches fall flat on their face. The people who pitch apps tend to be salesmen to the bone. Don’t sell it to me, motivate me to work with you—you want me to make it, not to use it. I’m not against the idea of helping someone make an app, but I’ve never found someone with a compelling idea. My normal constructive critcism is that they should get their pitch clear enough that they could convince a bank to give them a loan. These types of people somehow think they can wrangle an engineer, but most aren’t delusional enough to think they can cheat the bank.